PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

eastmanc said:
Stop giving Ladyman the benefit of the doubt, he fucking hates City and has expressed this in the past many times.
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The thing is, there are two broad scenarios that would relate to a finding in the club’s favour.

One is that the club has been guilty of institutional and sustained fraud and the PL simply hasn’t been able to prove that, or that we haven’t committed fraud at all and these charges are completely without merit. I don’t think there’s any grey area in between in terms of the substantive charges.

It’s not the fact that the media prefers the former rather than the latter as an explanation, it’s the widespread refusal to even acknowledge the latter as a possibility, other than the obligatory recital of the club’s denial.

It never gets floated, despite the implications of such an outcome actually being more significant in terms of evaluation of the competence of the PL’s ability to run and govern the game.

Even if the chances of this possibility were remote (which I would say they absolutely weren’t) it’s truly astonishing that this (as far as I can recall) hasn’t been ventilated by a single journalist of note. That in those circumstances, all this time, money and emotional energy would have been a fool’s errand.

Not a single ‘what if’ about a scenario that is entirely feasible that has implications that go to the very heart of the way our game is run.

It’s all very bizarre and more than a little bit sinister.
 
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Read a piece yesterday saying there will be a transfer ban on us if found guilty.whitch would piss them off if we do our transfers this month.and tie earling down
 
Plays By Sense Of Smell said:
He'll know by now that we operate on authenticity and trust.
If it's not working out or he has a change in heart and wants to leave, we'll sit down and talk and figure out a reasonable path forwards for everyone.

It's the type of healthy regime that keeps gashforditis at bay.
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Exactly.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The thing is, there are two broad scenarios that would relate to a finding in the club’s favour.

One is that the club has been guilty of institutional and sustained fraud and the PL simply hasn’t been able to prove that, or that we haven’t committed fraud at all and these charges are completely without merit. I don’t think there’s any grey area in between in terms of the substantive charges.

It’s not the fact that the media prefers the former rather than the latter as an explanation, it’s the widespread refusal to even acknowledge the latter as a possibility, other than the obligatory recital of the club’s denial.

It never gets floated, despite the implications of such an outcome actually being more significant in terms of evaluation of the competence of the PL’s ability to run and govern the game.

Even if the chances of this possibility were remote (which I would say they absolutely weren’t) it’s truly astonishing that this (as far as I can recall) hasn’t been ventilated by a single journalist of note. That in those circumstances, all this time, money and emotional energy would have been a fool’s errand.

Not a single ‘what if’ about a scenario that is entirely feasible that has implications that go to the very heart of the way our game is run.

It’s all very bizarre and more than a little bit sinister.
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Can’t beat a bit of scribed ventilation G.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
There well established is argument that juries shouldn’t sit on really complex fraud trials, although I’m not convinced personally.
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I've sat on seven juries, on two separate occasions. On one in particular, we failed to reach a decision because of the stupidity of two jurors. They sat away in the deliberations and talked to each other without engaging in the debate. They had made their mind up on not guilty, and that was that.
 
Blueeye said:
Read a piece yesterday saying there will be a transfer ban on us if found guilty.whitch would piss them off if we do our transfers this month.and tie earling down
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A transfer ban would be like punishing someone for murder by not letting them eat ice cream again instead of prison time, wouldn't make sense
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Magic Hat seems to think all the Jan tfrs and the Haaland and Pep deals are all just Abu Dhabi PR. Contradicting himself with almost every other post.

He also ignores the investment of Silver Lake - and how a serious investor like Silver Lake would allow the club to burn through hundreds of millions simply for PR when a verdict is due in a few weeks.

Really hope the club take some action against him if only to flush him out into the open to realise his identity.

Quite amazed it hasn’t come out already ( I’m pretty sure it’s not Harris )
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Of course it is.
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
i've enjoyed the narrative that it might be Harris but likewise I very much doubt it.
IIRC @slbsn thinks not as well and he, of course, was involved in several exchanges with him.
Also, the hat was on an Arsenal podcast and, whilst he didn't show his face on the you tube clip, unless he was using voice changing software it wasn't Harris.
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It's some organisation club paying someone to tweet lies to keep the negative narrative going!

Once it's over they'll still be getting paid to tweet more lies!
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The thing is, there are two broad scenarios that would relate to a finding in the club’s favour.

One is that the club has been guilty of institutional and sustained fraud and the PL simply hasn’t been able to prove that, or that we haven’t committed fraud at all and these charges are completely without merit. I don’t think there’s any grey area in between in terms of the substantive charges.

It’s not the fact that the media prefers the former rather than the latter as an explanation, it’s the widespread refusal to even acknowledge the latter as a possibility, other than the obligatory recital of the club’s denial.

It never gets floated, despite the implications of such an outcome actually being more significant in terms of evaluation of the competence of the PL’s ability to run and govern the game.

Even if the chances of this possibility were remote (which I would say they absolutely weren’t) it’s truly astonishing that this (as far as I can recall) hasn’t been ventilated by a single journalist of note. That in those circumstances, all this time, money and emotional energy would have been a fool’s errand.

Not a single ‘what if’ about a scenario that is entirely feasible that has implications that go to the very heart of the way our game is run.

It’s all very bizarre and more than a little bit sinister.
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A lot of it is undoubtedly either just bias or setting the scene for city 'got away with it' as opposed to not guilty.
Essentially a face saving exercise following years of journalistic stupidity and click baiting.
 
bitterblue78 said:
They could expel us i think and then the highest level we could play next season would be league 2 and then the EFL cluns would have to vote us in
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Pretty sure there would have to be extraordinary general meeting where over 75% of the members would need to vote us out. which would only remove us from the premier league.
 
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