PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[terraloon]

However, don't they have to agree the 25 player squad that we submit after each window? It'd be easy to say 'you can't play him'

If a PL club enters an insolvency event then all sorts of sanctions kick in one of which would be the club not being able to ( save some exceptional circumstances) register players.Similarly if a disciplinary hearing is about how a player was signed then the IC can rule that the specific player cant be registered but other than that the PL disciplinary sanctions don’t include the ability to sanction a club by way of a transfer embargo.
The league would be open to a challenge ( which they would lose) if the tried to stop a club registering a player and then including them on the squad list if they were signed in accord with PL & FIFA rules / regulations

 

[Mr Fraser]

Suppose that depends whether you wipe your arse with it on the day of printing, or following days.

OK ish for news, garbage for sport. John Crace is excellent columnist. Viner is a nasty piece of work

 

[SilvaisSkyBlue]

Pep has let himself go!

 

[foggy1974]

However, don't they have to agree the 25 player squad that we submit after each window? It'd be easy to say 'you can't play him'

Wouldn't said player then be able to sue the EPL under employment law & restriction of trade

 

[Manc in London]

I heard that even Pep is in line for jail time because of all the money laundering going on at City.

When you have been constantly fed this shite by the media people really believe it.

This has reminded me of the many tweets from opposition fans who accuse our 'Arab state owners' of money laundering. If we are stated owned, then our 'owners' also own the machines that print their own money so why would they want to launder money. The stupidity of some blows my mind.

 

[citizen_maine]

Wouldn't said player then be able to sue the EPL under employment law & restriction of trade

Could they do that when UEFA restricted us to 21 players?

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

The Guardian is generally an excellent paper they just hate City , always have. The place is rag infested, better not reading their sports section.

Lol

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

If it does turn out be a fine I hope we tell them to fuck off and challenge it. I’d hope Khaldoon is steadfast in his assertion that we're done cow-towing to these twats.

Sick of us paying for the pleasure of being investigated.

 

[Burtonblue]

The Guardian is generally an excellent paper they just hate City , always have. The place is rag infested, better not reading their sports section.

Excellent paper!?!
How the fuck did you draw that conclusion???
It’s a brilliant paper for left wing activists just as the Mail is for right wing activists.
Their bias means neither is in anyfuckingway excellent…..just massively politically biased.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Pep has let himself go!

Proper Manc lad now he's single Pringle again.

 

[old blue]

With what we are seeing this month it looks like we are clear of the charges

If you then consider the announcement that no PL clubs are facing PSR charges and the ongoing case with Everton being dropped, it makes me wonder if the APT hearing has also decided that PSR rules are null and void.

Clearing the way to start from scratch

I would not mind that scenario if it was accompanied by an admission from the PL that the case was fallacious from the start. Otherwise any outcome would be unacceptable to us as we would be branded as the cheats for years to come.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

This has reminded me of the many tweets from opposition fans who accuse our 'Arab state owners' of money laundering. If we are stated owned, then our 'owners' also own the machines that print their own money so why would they want to launder money. The stupidity of some blows my mind.

Apparently we are state owned. So how can our owner Sheikh Mansour have been accused of topping up our revenues from Etihad with his own cash? If we were state-owned the UAE state could have just increased payments from Etihad from its own coffers because Etihad is a state-owned airline. This whole saga has been a farce from start to finish.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It’s not the fact that the media prefers the former rather than the latter as an explanation, it’s the widespread refusal to even acknowledge the latter as a possibility, other than the obligatory recital of the club’s denial.

I’ve thought about this further and it gets worse.

The club has made its position clear. They expressly deny any wrongdoing, which plainly means an absence of any fraudulent activity whatsoever. That is City’s unequivocal stated position.

So an organisation that turns over 700 million quid, that has been accused of fraud by its regulatory body, unequivocally states that the allegations are entirely false. And they have ‘irrefutable’ proof of this. Strident words.

And yet there has been zero input from the press about the implications if this is correct, which is plainly seismic. If the club’s assertion is correct then they have been accused of something of which they have not done. That’s a huge deal by any objective measure.

Think of the Wagatha Christie trial. Imagine one of the statements of case, say Vardy, being forensically examined by the press and the implications for all parties if the court found favour with her case being set out in great detail. And then the only scenario being presented for Rooney was one where her defence didn’t get over the line because there wasn’t enough proof, without any reference to what it would mean if her stated case was upheld by the court.

That’s actually what we are dealing with here. The club’s defence is that the charges are bollocks and yet there has been next to zero analysis in the media of what it would mean for the PL if City are vindicated.

The levels of mental gymnastics and Nelsonian blindness involved here are off the fucking scale.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I’ve thought about this further and it gets worse.

The club has made its position clear. They expressly deny any wrongdoing, which plainly means an absence of any fraudulent activity whatsoever. That is City’s unequivocal stated position.

So an organisation that turns over 700 million quid, that has been accused of fraud by its regulatory body, unequivocally states that the allegations are entirely false. And they have ‘irrefutable’ proof of this. Strident words.

And yet there has been zero input from the press about the implications if this is correct, which is plainly seismic. If the club’s assertion is correct then they have been accused of something of which they have not done. That’s a huge deal by any objective measure.

Think of the Wagatha Christie trial. Imagine one of the statements of case, say Vardy, being forensically examined by the press and the implications for all parties if the court found favour with her case being set out in great detail. And then the only scenario being presented for Rooney was one where her defence didn’t get over the line because there wasn’t enough proof, without any reference to what it would mean if her stated case was upheld by the court.

That’s actually what we are dealing with here. The club’s defence is that the charges are bollocks and yet there has been next to zero analysis of what it would mean for the PL if City are vindicated.

The levels of mental gymnastics and Nelsonian blindness involved here are off the fucking scale.

I realise the club hierarchy will be looking beyond the pettiness and vindictiveness of the whole thing and concentrating on the 'bigger picture' but I do hope there is some level of retribution.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

The Guardian is generally an excellent paper they just hate City , always have. The place is rag infested, better not reading their sports section.

The guardian absolutely despise our owners. And the UAE in general. They view them as the “wrong sort of Muslims” because unlike most of the Middle East, the UAE appear, on the surface at least, to have decent diplomatic relations with Israel, which in the eyes of the guardian is unforgivable and therefore they are not to be trusted.

 

[HelloCity]

If we couldn’t because of the rules, what’s to stop Etihad or another sponsor from suing the PL for defamation? They’re basically accusing a third party of unlawful activities.

 

[Zabbasbeard]

Excellent paper!?!
How the fuck did you draw that conclusion???
It’s a brilliant paper for left wing activists just as the Mail is for right wing activists.
Their bias means neither is in anyfuckingway excellent…..just massively politically biased.

*not at all good for left-wing activists who support Manchester City

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The talk of fines is interesting.

One I haven’t seen anything in the press suggesting why we would be fined.

Obviously it would be because the only thing we did wrong was non cooperation.

Was thinking about this earlier. Non-cooperation is the obvious area where there would be a fine as there's no sporting advantage.

One of the other major things I believe the charges cover is the issue of whether the Abu Dhabi sponsors are related parties. While I doubt that will be something the IC will find in the PL's favour, let's assume it was.

If we were found guilty of presenting accounts that were deemed to be misleading or inaccurate purely on that basis, then (assuming the sponsorships were deemed ok otherwise) there would also be no sporting advantage. So a fine would be the appropriate sanction.

If the IC found us in breach around the Mancini contract, then I'd expect a fine, rather than a points deduction, as the amount involved is minimal.

But let's stress again that Stefan has made it clear that sanctions will only be considered once the outcome of the hearing is known. So the high likelihood is that no one has a clue.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I realise the club hierarchy will be looking beyond the pettiness and vindictiveness of the whole thing and concentrating on the 'bigger picture' but I do hope there is some level of retribution.

I think we all do, given the circumstances.

 

[JGL07]

They could expel us i think and then the highest level we could play next season would be league 2 and then the EFL cluns would have to vote us in

How since the Premier League is separate from the EFL?

All they could do is deduct enough points to ensure relegation to the Championship.