5 | John Stones - 2024/25

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I just can't see who would take him this summer, this present injury seems a serious one, maybe enough to finish him at the top level?
That's why I don't think anybody would buy him.

Historically, so incredibly injury prone, but is being paid well here.

Somebody in the prem might try, but would low ball his salary given the injuries and then he'd decide to just stay and ride out his contract, which might be the only option.
 
Wonder what the future is now? Two new defenders, which of the big names will be leaving in the summer? Due to injuries I can only see John being high on that exit list :(
 
I know he’s always injured now, but I think he’s been a massive miss in our side. He’s genuinely world class, offers leadership and I believe he’s the best player we have when coming out of the back.
I like Stones but it's time to move him on this summer due to him being injured more than he's fit. He's no use to us being a world class croc.
 
I like Stones but it's time to move him on this summer due to him being injured more than he's fit. He's no use to us being a world class croc.
I feel like it’s going to be hard time to get „ rid „ of him. He will most likely leave in 26
 
I mean if you want to compare games played to Dias then its a losing battle in just the premier league Dias has played 13, Stones 8.

And if we keep going back in years its:

30 vs 16
26 vs 23
29 vs 14
34 v 22
33 vs 16
32 vs 24
24 vs 18 (Dias is too young at this pt)

And Stones will very likely not hit 19 prem games again, he rarely is fit for even half the season as shown.

Considering his age as well, we simply must move on from him.

Even if we cant sell him, plan transfers around him not being fit.
Great Post. Gives a factual basis to what my instincts have been for sometime now. Sadly Stones is not a luxury we can afford moving into what promises to be a major rebuild.
 
I feel like it’s going to be hard time to get „ rid „ of him. He will most likely leave in 26
I don’t agree. Loads of of teams will be after him.

I’d also say we seem to be getting rid of all of our experience and proven winners. Is it not worth keeping him around or are we trusting the new unproven youngsters now?
 
I don’t agree. Loads of of teams will be after him.

I’d also say we seem to be getting rid of all of our experience and proven winners. Is it not worth keeping him around or are we trusting the new unproven youngsters now?
It does depend on his fitness though. If he can’t shake off this foot problem, he may have to retire.

Half a game every 6 weeks won’t be enough for any team.
 
It does depend on his fitness though. If he can’t shake off this foot problem, he may have to retire.

Half a game every 6 weeks won’t be enough for any team.
Potentially. you could argue Dias and ake are injured way too much as well. Is it something to do with our training methods perhaps or natural after years with pep.

He’d be so difficult to replace. In the treble season in particular he was brilliant. MOTM in the champions league final for me
 
Potentially. you could argue Dias and ake are injured way too much as well. Is it something to do with our training methods perhaps or natural after years with pep.

He’d be so difficult to replace. In the treble season in particular he was brilliant. MOTM in the champions league final for me
There’s absolutely no doubt Stones is top quality. It’s just a shame he can’t shake this foot issue off.

I don’t think it’s a training issue, as we hardly have time to train. It’s most likely to be burn out.

Perhaps teams need bigger squads and send a few if their players on 6 week holidays on rotation. The amount of football now is crippling players.
 
Stones suddenly makes himself available for the squad now we have signed 2 new defenders and his place might not be guaranteed on the rare occasion he deems fit to pull his boots on, what a surprise.
 
Stones suddenly makes himself available for the squad now we have signed 2 new defenders and his place might not be guaranteed on the rare occasion he deems fit to pull his boots on, what a surprise.

When has his place ever been guaranteed?

There's many things to complain about in this world, but I'm not sure a player being available is one of them
 
Stones suddenly makes himself available for the squad now we have signed 2 new defenders and his place might not be guaranteed on the rare occasion he deems fit to pull his boots on, what a surprise.
Why don’t you take a running jump off a short pier? Or maybe why don’t you find out more about the pain that John Stones has played through for this team?
You wouldn’t last five minutes.

EDIT:I’ve just seen the reply from @jimharri and I definitely feel you need insurance. ;-) :-)

2nd EDIT: Silent Witness is interesting this evening!!
 
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Is it true he is suffering from chronic plantar fasciitis? Feel really sorry for him if so, I used to love running and footy and it's why I packed both in, couldn't cope with the pain feeling like I had a lump of glass stabbing me in the arch of my foot constantly.
Is it curable with surgery or anything? Cant say I have heard of it or ever heard any other footballer getting it but sounds like a nightmarish injury.
 
There’s absolutely no doubt Stones is top quality. It’s just a shame he can’t shake this foot issue off.

I don’t think it’s a training issue, as we hardly have time to train. It’s most likely to be burn out.

Perhaps teams need bigger squads and send a few if their players on 6 week holidays on rotation. The amount of football now is crippling players.
That’s my point. Football seems to be the only sport where top teams constantly use the same players - despite having a bench or being able to have more players in the squad. Even tho we can use 5 more players in a match we don’t do that since pep either forgets or just hopes the squad he chose will bring it home. Gvardiol should be tired too .
 
Is it curable with surgery or anything? Cant say I have heard of it or ever heard any other footballer getting it but sounds like a nightmarish injury.

Plantar fasciitis​

Plantar fasciitis is pain on the bottom of your foot, around your heel and arch. You can usually ease the pain yourself but see a GP if it does not improve within 2 weeks.

Check if you have plantar fasciitis​

The main symptom of plantar fasciitis is pain on the bottom of your foot, around your heel and arch.

The bottom of a foot with some red shading at the back of the foot, towards the heel, showing where the pain of plantar fasciitis is felt.

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It's more likely to be plantar fasciitis if:

  • the pain is much worse when you start walking after sleeping or resting
  • the pain feels better during exercise, but returns after resting
  • it's difficult to raise your toes off the floor

How to ease plantar fasciitis yourself​

If you see a GP, they'll usually suggest you try these things:

Do​

  • rest and raise your foot on a stool when you can
  • put an ice pack (or bag of frozen peas) in a towel on the painful area for up to 20 minutes every 2 to 3 hours
  • wear shoes with cushioned heels and good arch support
  • use insoles or heel pads in your shoes
  • try regular gentle stretching exercises
  • try exercises that do not put pressure on your feet, such as swimming
  • take painkillers like paracetamoland ibuprofen
  • try to lose weight if you’re overweight

Don’t​

  • do not walk or stand for long periods
  • do not wear high heels or tight pointy shoes
  • do not wear flip-flops or backless slippers
  • try not to walk barefoot on hard surfaces

A pharmacist can help with plantar fasciitis​

You can ask a pharmacist about:

  • the best painkiller to take
  • insoles and pads for your shoes
  • if you need to see a GP
Find a pharmacy

Non-urgent advice: See a GP if:​

  • you have pain in the bottom of your foot that is severe or stopping you doing normal activities
  • the pain is getting worse or keeps coming back
  • the pain has not improved after treating it yourself for 2 weeks
  • you have any tingling or loss of feeling in your foot
  • you have diabetes and foot pain – foot problems can be more serious if you have diabetes
What we mean by severe pain

Treatment for plantar fasciitis from a foot specialist​

If plantar fasciitis does not get better, a GP might refer you to a physiotherapist or foot specialist (podiatrist).

A physiotherapist can show you exercises to help ease your symptoms. A podiatrist can recommend things like insoles and the right shoes to wear.

Physiotherapy is available free of charge on the NHS throughout the UK but waiting times for accessing physiotherapy can sometimes be long.

Podiatry may not be available for free on the NHS everywhere and waiting times can sometimes be long.

You can also pay to see a podiatrist or physiotherapist privately.

Find a registered podiatrist
Find a registered physiotherapist
Information:

Self-refer for treatment​

If you have plantar fasciitis, you might be able to refer yourself directly to services for help with your condition without seeing a GP.

To find out if there are any services in your area:

  • ask the reception staff at your GP surgery
  • check your GP surgery's website
  • contact your integrated care board (ICB) – find your local ICB
  • search online for NHS treatment for plantar fasciitis near you

Common causes of plantar fasciitis​

Plantar fasciitis is caused by straining the part of your foot that connects your heel bone to your toes (plantar fascia).

It's not always clear why this happens.

You may be more likely to get plantar fasciitis if you:

  • are 40 to 60 years of age
  • recently started exercising on hard surfaces
  • exercise with a tight calf or heel
  • overstretch the sole of your foot during exercise
  • recently started doing a lot more walking, running or standing up
  • wear shoes with poor cushioning or support
  • are very overweight
Page last reviewed: 07 February 2022
Next review due: 07 February 2025
 
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