United Thread | 2024/25

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ninjamonkey said:
Nothing to do with the PL, it's tv scheduling. TnT sports has the game. They have to play Sunday after playing Thursday, the game isn't allowed to overlap with sky sports broadcasts who had games at 2 and 4 today so it's Sunday night out of neccsity and not some strange ploy to give united a few hours extra rest even though a later kick off then results in less recovery time for their upcoming midweek game. Not everything is a conspiracy.
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And nobody would choose to play an away tie, in London, on a Sunday night?
 
JASR said:
‘Organic growth’ in 5 easy steps

Sugar daddy 1 builds a stadium (iirc or vice versa)
Sugar daddy 2 build a stadium (iirc or vice versa)
Govt money to rebuild stadium (ww2)
Govt money to rebuild stadium (1966)
Govt money to build new stadium (2025)

It stinks, is complete hypocrisy, and shows the well greasing the palms in the back corridors of power continues for almost a century.

As pointed out by Newcastle fan, wtf is money being wasted on a thriving city (and a piss poor club outside of it), when there are far more deprived areas in the North.
Manchester is booming, it hardly needs more govt money, it’s self generating now.

90,000 jobs , yeah right, there’s nothing like that many near Wembley, the national stadium in a far bigger conurbation.

Do it the United way - spend other people’s money
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The government aren't funding a new stadium. They are giving the green light for planning and infrastructure. It is all there in the statements from Andy Burnham. Not a penny of our money is going into funding a new stadium. Also, a train station for a densely populated area of Stretford is long overdue.

It will be a hefty loan and sponsorship deal from some US idiot. The Snapdragon Stadium or some shit like that.
 
Chris-NCL said:
I know this might not go down well with the majority of you being Manchester based, but here’s my perspective from someone who lives nowhere near Manchester, but still in the North.

When the Commonwealth stadium was built, and you guys took ownership of it, Manchester was in a different place to what it is 22 years later to now. Manchester needed regeneration, and no private company saw money in it to go it alone, so the government had to kick start it.
Right now though Manchester is the Northern London, and although it may not officially be the case, it is both Englands and the UK’s 2nd city now.
Companies are lining up to invest in Manchester, you have skyscrapers etc all being built with private funds, companies moved skilled jobs to the city.
With your stadium, and the new Coop venue, alongside the existing arena, you have massive concerts etc being hosted in Manchester. You’re airport is massively successful and sucks up passengers from not only the North West, but the Midlands, and all the way up into Scotland.
Without being provocative, from the opinion of everyone else in the North, the money for the North by the government for the last 20 years or so has went to Manchester with ministers saying ‘Look we invested in the North’.

For all intends purposes, Manchester doesn’t need government intervention to build a few hotels, some apartment complexes, and a couple of office buildings that will make it attractive for Man Utd to build a new 100k seater fuck off stadium.
The richest clubs figures came out a few days ago and Manchester United are still one of the richest clubs not only in the country, but the world. The land they want to build on is owned by millionaires and billionaires, they have the money to kick start it if they want to. I’m going to say this last bit bluntly as well. If none of it never got built, Manchester as a city isn’t missing out. Tourists will still come to your city to watch both Man Utd and you. Large scale events will still be held in Manchester, jobs will still be created, private companies will still be lining up for available land such as around Old Trafford to build their new offices and apartment complexes.

We (Newcastle United) are about to announce what we are doing with our stadium in the next few months. Will the government be providing funding so we can build a fan park, hotels, and apartments on club land adjacent to SJP?
I doubt it.
Meanwhile half a mile away from SJP an overpass in Gateshead has been forced to close before Christmas. We don’t have the money to demolish it, the government won’t give us emergency funding, and the council has tried and failed on 2 separate occasions in recent years to gain funding from central government. This is a key route from Gateshead into Newcastle, which leads over the Tyne bridge, which is awaiting it’s final amount of money it requires to complete it’s refurbishment, 5 years after it should have been given.
Another bridge across the Tyne is going the same way as the overpass in Gateshead, and that needs funding to deal with that.
The historic High level railway bridge is going to have to be rebuilt in the next few years, there is no funding for that.
Our Metro system still needs its final allocation of funding approved so it can complete its renewal process to keep our Metro system running, 15-20 years after it should have been given. This is just in the Tyneside area, every area outside Greater Manchester, and London will have similar lists of stories.
It would be a complete shambles if Manchester gets government funding so Taylor Swift can perform a concert at Old Trafford instead of the Etihad.
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As many other Bluemooners will already be aware, I'm a born & bred Manc. Having lived up here in Cumbria for the past 35 yrs I'm also well up to speed with the points you have made about the NE as we get the same BBC regional news as you lot. You're absolutely right about the lack of government investment over there in Geordieland. It's a fecking disgrace TBH and all this talk about "northern powerhouse" is mostly flannel IMHO. Over here in Carlisle the city has had to fight tooth and nail for whatever funding it gets - mostly scraps in comparison though. In the meantime, a mega-rich businessman who is domiciled outside the UK in order to avoid paying tax is seriously suggesting that a new stadium for his partly owned business based in Stretford should be paid for by the Taxpayer. Its completely ridiculous. That lot should be left to stew in their own self-made mess and not get a penny of assistance from the public purse.
 
They hate the Scousers so much, so much more than us that they've not stopped singing about us for the first 10 minutes of the Fulham game. Never hear them singing about Liverpool unless they're playing them but don't forget they prefer us to win the league before the Scousers cos they hate them so much more than they hate us.
 
Grassland Blue said:
It's spuds duty to finish below the rags....
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They're fortunate that there's a few mediocre sides in the league this year.....

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Saints are done for. And you can perm 2 out of the 3 to join them. I think Spurs and Everton have enough of a buffer. If you're talking around 38 pts as the safety mark (I know people talk of 40 pts, but I don't think too many teams in the high thirties have dropped), then Spurs and Everton need 4 more wins from 15/16 games. They've probably got enough about them to manage that.
 
Blue2112 said:
They hate the Scousers so much, so much more than us that they've not stopped singing about us for the first 10 minutes of the Fulham game. Never hear them singing about Liverpool unless they're playing them but don't forget they prefer us to win the league before the Scousers cos they hate them so much more than they hate us.
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Probably because we don't cry tragedy chanting everytime somebody says something nasty about us.
 
Citi-leaks said:
The government aren't funding a new stadium. They are giving the green light for planning and infrastructure. It is all there in the statements from Andy Burnham. Not a penny of our money is going into funding a new stadium. Also, a train station for a densely populated area of Stretford is long overdue.

It will be a hefty loan and sponsorship deal from some US idiot. The Snapdragon Stadium or some shit like that.
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I agree that the government will not put any money into a refurb or a new stadium, but that is not the point.
To get a new stadium someone has to pay for the rail freight depot to be moved. The rags will not be paying for that.
Until Scruffy rocked up no one had ever thought about moving it. (That will also mean Manchester people losing jobs.) or renovating the Old Trafford area, (it doesn't need it)

The government has little money to spare and the little it has certainly shouldn't be spent on a vanity project.

Oh hang on, they are now so unimportant I forgot they kicked off 26 minutes ago.

Edit nil nil, not arsed, off it goes.

So. In short. The rags can fuck off with their corrupt plan.
 
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jimharri said:
They're fortunate that there's a few mediocre sides in the league this year.....

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Saints are done for. And you can perm 2 out of the 3 to join them. I think Spurs and Everton have enough of a buffer. If you're talking around 38 pts as the safety mark (I know people talk of 40 pts, but I don't think too many teams in the high thirties have dropped), then Spurs and Everton need 4 more wins from 15/16 games. They've probably got enough about them to manage that.
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If the current form continues Leicester will be ok.
Wolves are fighting and have had some umlucky narrow defeats, similarly Ipswich.
The rags could be sucked into that dogfight, no question, especially with a potential points deduction in the offing. (if the P.L. do their job!)
Now the rags going down, that would be a BIIIG story for the media.....
 
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Grassland Blue said:
If the current form continues Leicester will be ok.
Wolves are fighting and have had some umlucky narrow defeats, similarly Luton.
The rags could be sucked into that dogfight, no question, especially with a potential points deduction in the offing. (if the P.L. do their job!)
Now the rags going down, that would be a BIIIG story for the media.....
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No chance!

By the way; Luton? Have you been, er "away" for a year?
 
jimharri said:
They're fortunate that there's a few mediocre sides in the league this year.....

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Saints are done for. And you can perm 2 out of the 3 to join them. I think Spurs and Everton have enough of a buffer. If you're talking around 38 pts as the safety mark (I know people talk of 40 pts, but I don't think too many teams in the high thirties have dropped), then Spurs and Everton need 4 more wins from 15/16 games. They've probably got enough about them to manage that.
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Spurs for the rags after palace, lose both of those and they could be in serious trouble.
 
jimharri said:
No chance!

By the way; Luton? Have you been, er "away" for a year?
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Haha.
There was a bit of a situation on the bus with a crazy shouting woman which disrupted my train of thought (several times) you're lucky I got most of my message across coherently!
 
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