The Labour Government

Gone for a Burton said:
Quota Generation -:

How about the Government establishing a minimum removal quota of 30000 per month for illegal immigrants....360000 each year !!

Additionally, locate a 20 mile long section of marine bolsters across the Channel along with 24 hour border guard patrols on the small length of beach where the illegals land.

This small island cannot accommodate or subsidise Illegal Immigrants from tax payers pounds.
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Quite right. We all want to pay more for cars to be washed and nails to look beautiful.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
He was exempted because he was a child at the time. Technically it was a fraudulent claim as it wasn't his identity. Think such guidance would be ruled illegal if it applied to children. Knowingly creating stateless children with no route to citizenship.

This is how apartheid starts.
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It's how the Windrush scandal ended (or hasn't ended).
 
Vic said:
Quite right. We all want to pay more for cars to be washed and nails to look beautiful.
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Yeah I mean, having to pay people attractive wages to do a job? Who would want that when we could exploit the poverty of someone?

This is the "we cant free slaves because it would crash the cotton economy" argument slightly reworded and its morally disgusting.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
Quota Generation -:

How about the Government establishing a minimum removal quota of 30000 per month for illegal immigrants....360000 each year !!

Additionally, locate a 20 mile long section of marine bolsters across the Channel along with 24 hour border guard patrols on the small length of beach where the illegals land.

This small island cannot accommodate or subsidise Illegal Immigrants from tax payers pounds.
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No chance. They'd much rather bankrupt the country and everyone's living standards than upset their voter base which polling data shows is formed by many of these migrants when they get leave to remain. And who would blame them. As soon as I got the right to vote and was a foreign national with access to social housing and benefits, I'd definitely vote for Labour: it's a no-brainer.
 
Damocles said:
Yeah I mean, having to pay people attractive wages to do a job? Who would want that when we could exploit the poverty of someone?

This is the "we cant free slaves because it would crash the cotton economy" argument slightly reworded and its morally disgusting.
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Well, yes, but I was having a go at someone who said that tax payers "subsidise" illegal migrants.

Gone for a Burton said:
Have you thought of a career in politics, you could go far.
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See above
 
Damocles said:
Yeah I mean, having to pay people attractive wages to do a job? Who would want that when we could exploit the poverty of someone?

This is the "we cant free slaves because it would crash the cotton economy" argument slightly reworded and its morally disgusting.
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This is the new voice of the more vocal and prominent Labour posters in here as well.

I would normally have said left wing but the few true left wingers on here are equally mystified at the sudden love for once seen as right wing policy from many of them.
 
hammocity said:
Some migrants at Bredbury Hall and the Cresta Court are being processed in as little as 2 to 3 weeks, housed and I'm assuming given NI numbers.

My niece works at BH and told me it's quite a quick turn around, all men, not many of them are polite with her and most definitely economic migrants.

Same with CC, a mate of mine who's a Blue now lives in Alty, he used the hotel to have a brew and send emails for his business when his house was busy. He met a Chinese employee who raised the same issues as my niece.
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Those migrants in the Alty Hotel are getting private healthcare apparently. When the local residents questioned how the local drs was going to cope, they were told don't worry you wont be affected as the Government were bringing in private doctors to look after the migrants housed in the hotel.
 
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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Our politicians need to be more honest and brave. There are huge problems ,(and benefits) associated with the scale of immigration we have seen over the last couple of decades.
If the right stopped blaming all social ills on these immigrants and perhaps looked to companies like amazon to pay tax into th UK coffers then we could afford the social infrastructure required to cope with immigration and diffuse the scapegoating of immigrants by the right. Instead we get stuck in silly right v left arguments while the rich get richer.
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All the big online companies need to pay their fair of UK tax, but strangely they slipped through yet another Chancellors fingers last October. I wonder why.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
That assumption is wrong. NINOs are given when someone is given the right to work. They don't get this until are granted refugee status or diplomatic protection.

@Ifwecouldjust.......
Asylum seekers and even refused Asylum seekers may see a GP and go to hospitals if they need it. They don't need a national insurance number.

This makes sense, people from developing countries can be more likely to have infections that endanger public health. We don't want these infections going untreated and worsening.

There is no way that cases are being rubber stamped like that. Only way that it's happening if those people have come from other accommodation and have been in the country longer.

Dispersal accommodation exists but once someone is granted asylum then they are evicted from that accommodation. There can be a delay between that grant of asylum and receiving right to work documents. At that time it is get a job or obtain universal credit and find private accommodation. They might hang on to obtain social housing but unless they are disabled or it's a family then it will be private accommodation and the housing benefit room rate for under 35s.
Refugees are not treated any better than citizens on this issue.
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Agree that asylum seekers are given medical treatment… however asylum seekers are NOT illegals ( which is what the original poster said) ….. if you enter the UK without a right to asylum you are here illegally and cannot access the public purse for medical / dental / housing / welfare or anything else for that matter.

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Churchlawtonblue said:
Those migrants in the Alty Hotel are getting private healthcare apparently. When the local residents questioned how the local drs was going to cope, they were told don't worry you wont be affected as the Government were bringing in private doctors to look after the migrants housed in the hotel.
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So do you want them using the NHS or using private doctors?
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Agree that asylum seekers are given medical treatment… however asylum seekers are NOT illegals ( which is what the original poster said) ….. if you enter the UK without a right to asylum you are here illegally and cannot access the public purse for medical / dental / housing / welfare or anything else for that matter.

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You can access A&E, Maternity and HIV services.
Edit. AND highly infectious disease services.
 
Vic said:
So do you want them using the NHS or using private doctors?
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They should go on the NHS but go to the back of the queue, alternatively they could pay for the doctors themselves? I do know the authorities shouldn't be giving them private healthcare ahead of our own citizens who currently have to wait month's or years for treatment.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
They should go on the NHS but go to the back of the queue, alternatively they could pay for the doctors themselves? I do know the authorities shouldn't be giving them private healthcare ahead of our own citizens who currently have to wait month's or years for treatment.
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Doesn’t actually matter if they use the NHS or private healthcare.

Still the taxpayer who picks up the bill, and putting them through private healthcare reduces capacity and the ability to clear NHS backlogs by using private.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Our politicians need to be more honest and brave. There are huge problems ,(and benefits) associated with the scale of immigration we have seen over the last couple of decades.
If the right stopped blaming all social ills on these immigrants and perhaps looked to companies like amazon to pay tax into th UK coffers then we could afford the social infrastructure required to cope with immigration and diffuse the scapegoating of immigrants by the right. Instead we get stuck in silly right v left arguments while the rich get richer.
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Left, Right or Centre the issue of ILLEGAL immigrants & General immigration is a major issue for the country.

ILLEGAL immigration/immigrants must be stopped /actioned by prevention, deterrent and removal.

No prison or custody at the tax payers expense ....DEPORTATION.

Controlled immigration must be determined by what the country and its 'businesses' need, controlled by visas, financial independence, contracted employment, medical insurance .

This small island's vital public services were not designed for ' non contributors' and medical tourists.

Our vital public services are collapsing/have collapsed....NHS, Education, Prisons, Law & Order, Border Control etc.

UK is being invaded most days of the year by largely young, males,in designer clothes with mobile phone, whose first action when they're mid channel is to drop their Passport and ID overboard.

Enoch Powell was prescient and we must do things whilst we can otherwise our children & grandchildren will be living in an increasingly violent, lawless and alien country whose services are broken beyond repair.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
Left, Right or Centre the issue of ILLEGAL immigrants & General immigration is a major issue for the country.

ILLEGAL immigration/immigrants must be stopped /actioned by prevention, deterrent and removal.

No prison or custody at the tax payers expense ....DEPORTATION.

Controlled immigration must be determined by what the country and its 'businesses' need, controlled by visas, financial independence, contracted employment, medical insurance .

This small island's vital public services were not designed for ' non contributors' and medical tourists.

Our vital public services are collapsing/have collapsed....NHS, Education, Prisons, Law & Order, Border Control etc.

UK is being invaded most days of the year by largely young, males,in designer clothes with mobile phone, whose first action when they're mid channel is to drop their Passport and ID overboard.

Enoch Powell was prescient and we must do things whilst we can otherwise our children & grandchildren will be living in an increasingly violent, lawless and alien country whose services are broken beyond repair.
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Why is the UK a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention 1951 then ?

We have agreed to accept asylum seekers should they get to the UK and have a valid reason to apply for asylum .

Over 80% of asylum applicants are granted asylum
 
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