PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Stoned Rose said:
Setting the scene for when the silly cunts roll out the “we couldn’t find any evidence cos city had been sly cunts and conducted all their cheating on devices we don’t have the power to access. But we’re learning from this process and putting measures in place to avoid this in future”.
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LEAVE THE DOSH IN A BROWN PAPER BAG BEHIND THE BOGS AT PICCADILLY STATION...

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Ferran has a chat with Khaldoon.
 
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Burtonblue said:
Fucking hell.
Now the PL want to bypass police and court orders?
They’re in fantasy dictator land.
Presumably they will need approval from all clubs and I can’t think of any who would agree to this.
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Yes but just think about it for a minute.
If we are cleared off all 115 charges and for a fucking big wind up from Khaldoon, we could say "yes we`re in full agreement with the PL and all sorts of evidence should be used at their disposal". After all we`ve been cleared but the rest of the PL Clubs would be shitting themselves.
Go on Khaldoon wind the rest of the cunts up and agree. ;)
 
oakiecokie said:
Yes but just think about it for a minute.
If we are cleared off all 115 charges and for a fucking big wind up from Khaldoon, we could say "yes we`re in full agreement with the PL and all sorts of evidence should be used at their disposal". After all we`ve been cleared but the rest of the PL Clubs would be shitting themselves.
Go on Khaldoon wind the rest of the cunts up and agree. ;)
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Unfortunately it will need a majority vote to be passed and I just can’t see how any club would agree to this….literally everybody must have somethings to hide, some more than others.
 
salfordbluetrue said:

Premier League seeks power to access club premises during investigations​

  • Ability to enter buildings would relate to financial rules
  • It could be used if club has not complied with inquiry

Exclusive by Paul MacInnes
Wed 12 Feb 2025 15.12 GMT
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The Premier League has asked its clubs for expanded investigatory powers, including the right to access club premises, as part of new financial rules.

The proposals are included in the latest draft of the squad cost ratio (SCR) mechanism which is expected to replace the profitability and sustainability rules that limit spending.


It is understood that the league has asked for the ability to enter buildings in the event that a club is found not to have complied with an inquiry it has initiated. Such a power is commonly used by law enforcement agencies to seize documents related to an investigation.

  • Under existing rules, clubs are expected to give “full, complete and prompt assistance” to any Premier League inquiry, but should this fail to happen the league must resort to fines, a tribunal or the Football Association to resolve the problem.

Premier League sources played down any suggestion that such powers would be the equivalent of a dawn raid. Clubs would be given notice and any intervention would be at an agreed time, they said. However, the powers the league is seeking to acquire would be stronger than those proposed for the Independent Regulator for English Football, which must, under the current drafting of the bill, request a warrant from a tribunal or court before taking action.

Debate over the SCR rules has heated up before the latest Premier League shareholders’ meeting in a central London hotel on Thursday. Last week the Professional Footballers’ Association wrote to the league and its 20 clubs warning of possible legal action were the rules to be voted through at the meeting.

The letter, which was first reported by PA Media, argued the union had not been given timely access to documentation and claimed the “withholding of relevant documentation pertaining to the proposals is clear evidence of [the league’s] failure to comply with its duties”. The letter also suggested the league had failed in its obligations to properly discuss the measures through the professional football negotiating and consultative committee (PFNCC), which comprises representatives of the PFA, EFL, Premier League and FA.

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In a statement issued in response to the letter, the Premier League said: “We strongly disagree with the PFA’s views regarding the proposed financial rules and the consultation process we are conducting with our clubs and other stakeholders. We have complied with PFNCC requirements and the PFA has had multiple opportunities since March 2024 to provide feedback on the rules and the principles that underpin them.”

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So going back to CAS, the PL believe that CAS awarding UEFA damages for non cooperation, legitimises their right to information not specified in the rule book, and for 2 years the PL investigated, then the PL employed forensic data experts, and within weeks they had charged City with the 115. 35 of them being non cooperation.
All companies have a right to upgrade their policies, but in doing so they have to follow a set routine, first of they have to prove accuracy, then they have to test the policy then they have to produce a method of using the policy, that is not discriminatory, and inform all parties of it`s usage. Needless to say the PL did none of these despite multiple opportunities so it does look like the PL has failed with 35 charges.
On the suing of the PL, the PL are using the same Panel in the hope of the same outcome, but City may well have 35 cases of victimization to add.
Of course it maybe just coincidental that the PL is asking to change it`s policies.
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Jesus, they are actually mental. It's one thing being granted powers like that but quite another wielding them. How many criminal cases fall apart because of some technicality in tge way a search, interview, evidence gathering etc are conducted? - loads I'd have thought, and that's when it's actual police doing it. I'm sure legal professionals would have fun contesting an amateur witch hunt conducted by the PL.
Sounds like someone is trying to quickly (and desperately) put something in place to define or create 'non cooperation'. The arrogant idiots seem to forget we already have a legal system and laws in this country.
 
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PL is struggling now to come up with new rules that limit City (and Newcastle) but dont cause issues to red cartel haha
this anchoring bullshit is another one specifically used against us, with our growing revenues and best current revenue in England shouldnt worth that much if its limited to anchoring whilst Uefa version is basically the higher the revenue the higher your can be without anchoring.

Masters need to be put on a lie detector. the machine would fucking jump bigger than a kangaroo.
 
Damanino said:
PL is struggling now to come up with new rules that limit City (and Newcastle) but dont cause issues to red cartel haha
this anchoring bullshit is another one specifically used against us, with our growing revenues and best current revenue in England shouldnt worth that much if its limited to anchoring whilst Uefa version is basically the higher the revenue the higher your can be without anchoring.

Masters need to be put on a lie detector. the machine would fucking jump bigger than a kangaroo.
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Is that how lie detectors work, jumping up and down?
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Jesus, they are actually mental. It's one thing being granted powers like that but quite another wielding them. How many criminal cases fall apart because of some technicality in tge way a search, interview, evidence gathering etc are conducted? - loads I'd have thought, and that's when it's actual police doing it. I'm sure legal professionals would have fun contesting an amateur witch hunt conducted by the PL.
Sounds like someone is trying to quickly (and desperately) put something in place to define or create 'non cooperation'. The arrogant idiots seem to forget we already have a legal system and laws in this country.
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It is important to note that despite the qualifications of the panel, it is not bound to British law, and that only reputation restrains total corruption, taking it away from the PL and into British justice will guarantee justice, which is where the PL and the PL panel fear to tread.
 
Over the years of my career I regularly acted in the role of Secretary, and in some instances, Chairman, for numerous business-related meetings. The last item on the agenda was always "Any Other Business". perhaps our representative at the PL meetings should pose the question "Why are Manchester United allowed to lose over 300million without any investigation or penalty?"
 
Bluekiwi said:
Over the years of my career I regularly acted in the role of Secretary, and in some instances, Chairman, for numerous business-related meetings. The last item on the agenda was always "Any Other Business". perhaps our representative at the PL meetings should pose the question "Why are Manchester United allowed to lose over 300million without any investigation or penalty?"
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I have never understood the need for secrecy in everything the PL does. It would not cost the PL anything to publish a summary of each club's PSR declarations so they can be scrutinised and justified. What are they so afraid of (rhetorical question ....)?
 
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