The Squad planning thread

I don’t care how fragile he is, I’d keep Stones. He understands Pep’s tactics inside out and considering we’ve just bought two young centre backs in Reis and Khusanov - and with Gvardiol still being young - his knowledge and experience would be amazing for them.
Unless Stones spends next summer skinnydipping in the healing waters of Lourdes, he is going to spend even less time on the pitch than he is getting at the moment. There is no justification for keeping him unless his physicality improves.
The non stop running ( at pace) of Madrid last night has to be an eye opener to Pep and crew.
 
Goalkeepers : Ortega, NEW SIGNING

Defenders: Khusanov, Reis, Akanji, Dias, Gvardiol, one of Ake or Stones, NEW SIGNING

Midfielders: Rodri, Nico, Kovacic, Bernardo

Attacking midfielders: Foden, Marmoush, McAtee, NEW SIGNING

Wingers: Savinho, Doku, Grealish, Bobb

Striker: Haaland, NEW SIGNING/ACADEMY PLAYER?

That means KDB, Gundogan, Ederson, Walker and one of Ake/Stones to leave. If Grealish can't stay fit for the rest of the season he can be replaced too.
 
Goalkeepers : Ortega, NEW SIGNING

Defenders: Khusanov, Reis, Akanji, Dias, Gvardiol, one of Ake or Stones, NEW SIGNING

Midfielders: Rodri, Nico, Kovacic, Bernardo

Attacking midfielders: Foden, Marmoush, McAtee, NEW SIGNING

Wingers: Savinho, Doku, Grealish, Bobb

Striker: Haaland, NEW SIGNING/ACADEMY PLAYER?

That means KDB, Gundogan, Ederson, Walker and one of Ake/Stones to leave. If Grealish can't stay fit for the rest of the season he can be replaced too.
Agree with most of this, but I'd like a quality central midfielder too. I imagine the Haaland back up will be Marmoush and an academy player, as opposed to signing another striker.
 
All those saying we can sell all experience well that experience doesn’t have enough legs now

If we keep the experience then we are just inviting trouble and struggle

If experienced Kev and Silva aren’t able to contribute then there is no point in having them

The problem with us is that the experience which have cannot continue in their current state
 

Assume Nunes could be walking as well

Can see Kov and Gundo going. Us trying to get Baleba. KDB looks like he might go, id love for us to Gove him another year. Wirtz in for him would be ideal. Ederson makes sense with that Saudi move. Grealish makes sense and we have Bobb/McAtee waiting. Walker is gone whether its to Ac or someone else. Still unsure on Stones but makes sense.

Actually think Bernado stays.
 
All those saying we can sell all experience well that experience doesn’t have enough legs now

If we keep the experience then we are just inviting trouble and struggle

If experienced Kev and Silva aren’t able to contribute then there is no point in having them

The problem with us is that the experience which have cannot continue in their current state
Build the team around the core of Dias, Gvardiol, Rodri, Foden and Haaland. An incredible blend of experience and youth. Marmoush, Nico G and Khusanov all look like brilliant signings and will get plenty of experience before next season starts. Savinho will be a superstar too. Even if we let 7-8 players leave, we`re still left with a young but experienced squad. As you say, experience doesn`t matter all that much if you`re no longer good enough to start with. Bobb will be like a new signing, best player in pre-season by far. I just hope Doku can stay injury free, as his G&A number could explode in a more stable team
 
Maybe, but my instinct is that we need a passer, rather than a destroyer.

There aren't many deep-lying playmaker types about these days though, certainly not in this league. Tielemans probably the player who fits that bill the most who is actually any good. Admittedly I don't watch much football outside of the PL so there may be someone from overseas who could do the job.
 
I think the high energy midfielder needs to be in the szobasalai mould. Capable of playing the 8 and even 10 and putting a shift in but also being tidy on the ball with an eye for goal. It allows nico and rodri to be the 6's or nico the 8 alongside rodri and then the new player to fill in when one of nico/rodri is rested. Even a young version of gundo would be perfect if they exist out there.
 

Assume Nunes could be walking as well

I'd add Phillips to that as well since he hasn't got a place.

Seems risky for that much turnover in a window. Stones and Grealish would be hard to move on for different reasons, so I'm open to just keeping them.
 
I'd add Phillips to that as well since he hasn't got a place.

Seems risky for that much turnover in a window. Stones and Grealish would be hard to move on for different reasons, so I'm open to just keeping them.
Id be tempted to give kdb another year. But Gundo is done.

All the rest have more time on contracts so you can only shift them on if an offer comes in. Some legends in there but I'd take whatever deals can be done. Grealish is 29, we should get good money if he can get fit. Stones and BSilva both only 30, but feels like time to move on.

Ederson is 31. That's young for a keeper. Not sure what's going on with him.
 
Goalkeepers : Ortega, NEW SIGNING

Defenders: Khusanov, Reis, Akanji, Dias, Gvardiol, one of Ake or Stones, NEW SIGNING

Midfielders: Rodri, Nico, Kovacic, Bernardo

Attacking midfielders: Foden, Marmoush, McAtee, NEW SIGNING

Wingers: Savinho, Doku, Grealish, Bobb

Striker: Haaland, NEW SIGNING/ACADEMY PLAYER?

That means KDB, Gundogan, Ederson, Walker and one of Ake/Stones to leave. If Grealish can't stay fit for the rest of the season he can be replaced too.
5-6 out in summer 2025 feels like the right level of change, and the players you picked look right to me. All are either too old, too fragile, or too inconsistent to warrant selection.

I bolded my outs for the next big window, summer 2026:

Ortega - either nails down #1 and gets a new contract or moves on a free and we replace with a new keeper
Akanji - would have 1 year left, attract offers, and I would hope Simpson-Pusey steps up by then
Kovacic - 1 year left, can't see him high in the pecking order, would rather see O'Reilly take his spot
Bernardo - on the wane, goes on a free
Grealish - 1 year left on the books so we won't need a massive offer to move him

I think the signings we've seen in Savinho and Marmoush point to a new blueprint of the player we'll sign - attackers who want the ball to feet and to run at defenses, which is exactly what improves our Viking up top. Next season may still be a transition season, but I think the rebuild is already well underway and we'll have one of the most exciting teams in Europe before long.
 
Id be tempted to give kdb another year. But Gundo is done.

All the rest have more time on contracts so you can only shift them on if an offer comes in. Some legends in there but I'd take whatever deals can be done. Grealish is 29, we should get good money if he can get fit. Stones and BSilva both only 30, but feels like time to move on.

Ederson is 31. That's young for a keeper. Not sure what's going on with him.
I've seen enough from de Bruyne to not extend him honestly. We can't keep holding on to the hope that he'll take the game over as a starter or sub when a lot of what he offers comes from his pace which he just doesn't have anymore.

Ederson looked to have a foot out the door last summer so now might be the best time to let him go wherever and get a big contract somewhere else. He's been immense and he's going to be hard to replace.

Grealish I want to hold on to in the hope that Pep stops being so stubborn about playing him as a winger who has to keep width. He plays well in a free role and can be dangerous cutting inside with Gvardiol overlapping. Could be worth tinkering with Grealish in the middle given how slow our midfielders are now. I'd just hate to see him go to another PL team to be given the role he succeeds in and be an absolute baller again. If Pep can be honest with him at the end of this season about his game time next season, then he needs to make a decision that gets him in contention for the World Cup.
 
considering the shelf-life of a good number of the squad, seems like next season will be a rebuilding one. Players take game time to achieve the fluency that success in the prem demands, individual talent is not enough. "Pressing" is changing football, possession is no longer the be-all it once was, counter-attacking seems to be less punishing on players, and we have the weapons to be an effective counter-attacking team. It's down to Pep, can he do a Uturn, and abandon a system that has brought him unprecedented success? Do we need a special coach to teach the finer points of marking? Que sera an' all that.....
 
I’d keep KDB for leadership for 1 more year, dunno about Grealish as recently he has played well and scored a couple (PSG), definitely need a player to play that KDB tho, if we can get Wirtz or Musiala long term. Got Echeverri coming in!! I think a new keeper is desperately needed, a full back or couple of full backs, a midfielder and an attacking player.
 
If say Gundogan, Grealish, KDB, Ederson, Walker, Stones, Nunes and Phillips and one of Kovacic or Bernardo are all off, how much would we recoup from any sales?

If we were to add a new keeper, new full back, new centre midfielder and new attacking midfielder that’s likely to cost a fortune. For example say Wirtz, Baleba, Suzuki and Cambiaso is well over £300m on 4 players so while the departures will give us plenty of room on wages we’ll need to get some transfer fees in.

Would also mean 8 out (I’m not including Phillips) with 9 between the January and Summer windows
 
Even if we don't get a quid out of that lot on the market it clears up an absolutely insane chunk of wages. Clear the 115 charges and we can hit the market big time. Don't mind not winning owt next year if we set ourselves up for another half decade of success.
 
If say Gundogan, Grealish, KDB, Ederson, Walker, Stones, Nunes and Phillips and one of Kovacic or Bernardo are all off, how much would we recoup from any sales?

If we were to add a new keeper, new full back, new centre midfielder and new attacking midfielder that’s likely to cost a fortune. For example say Wirtz, Baleba, Suzuki and Cambiaso is well over £300m on 4 players so while the departures will give us plenty of room on wages we’ll need to get some transfer fees in.

Would also mean 8 out (I’m not including Phillips) with 9 between the January and Summer windows
seen this Suzuki mentioned in the few threads, how is he with his feet and the highlights vids are all saves only.
 
If say Gundogan, Grealish, KDB, Ederson, Walker, Stones, Nunes and Phillips and one of Kovacic or Bernardo are all off, how much would we recoup from any sales?

If we were to add a new keeper, new full back, new centre midfielder and new attacking midfielder that’s likely to cost a fortune. For example say Wirtz, Baleba, Suzuki and Cambiaso is well over £300m on 4 players so while the departures will give us plenty of room on wages we’ll need to get some transfer fees in.

Would also mean 8 out (I’m not including Phillips) with 9 between the January and Summer windows
Gundogan free, Grealish 20m, KDB free, Ederson 25m (Saudi), Walker 5m (loan fee + option), Stones 15m, Nunes 25m, Phillips 5-10m, Kovacic 5m, Bernardo 15-20m

Somewhere around 120m would be my guess roughly. Nunes is only 26 and has had a pretty good season. Will be a few PL and Saudi clubs interested I guess. Could see Grealish going to Spurs, they tried to get him in January and will try again in the summer apparently
 

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