North Stand Construction Discussion

Penders1957 said:
Confused ! , you say there are only SVPs through the roof so how do heat source pumps distribute warm air through the building ? In many years staying in various brands of hotels across the country, I can honestly say that I’ve never encountered an “in room”A/c unit
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You will have, I would be surprised if you didn't. Surely you have adjusted temperature or switched off the AC, even to avoid the sound, etc?

Edit, here is a Radisson Blu room, off TripAdvisor.

The grill you see in the step in ceiling height, the AC unit is behind it. The panel you see close to the door, is the access to service it. That way they can replace or repair each room individually so they dont have to shut/ write off a whole stack of rooms if the aircon breaks.

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Coatigan said:
You will have, I would be surprised if you didn't. Surely you have adjusted temperature or switched off the AC, even to avoid the sound, etc?

Edit, here is a Radisson Blu room, off TripAdvisor.

The grill you see in the step in ceiling height, the AC unit is behind it. The panel you see close to the door, is the access to service it. That way they can replace or repair each room individually so they dont have to shut/ write off a whole stack of rooms if the aircon breaks.

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Always assumed that was multi room ducted a/c not in room , obviously adjusted/ switched off but never realised it was in the ceiling void ! What about the heat pumps ??
 
Penders1957 said:
Always assumed that was multi room ducted a/c not in room , obviously adjusted/ switched off but never realised it was in the ceiling void ! What about the heat pumps ??
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They Can be ducted, with controls. But something of this scale, this many floors, this size of floorplate, it wouldn't be that efficient through the length of ducts that would be needed. Also means if the aircon unit breaks, instead of one room of angry customers that you can move, you end up with say 10 or more rooms to deal with, if served by one unit. Besides I've just looked at the floor plans and the risers between the rooms don't look big enough for vertical ducts, not for this many storeys.

Not sure I get your question on the heat pumps, but might be in my earlier post, of the two in succession.
 
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Coatigan said:
They Can be ducted, with controls. But something of this scale, this many floors, this size of floorplate, it wouldn't be that efficient through the length of ducts that would be needed. Also means if the aircon unit breaks, instead of one room of angry customers that you can move, you end up with say 10 or more rooms to deal with, if served by one unit. Besides I've just looked at the floor plans and the risers between the rooms don't look big enough for vertical ducts, not for this many storeys.

Not sure I get your question on the heat pumps, but might be in my earlier post, of the two in succession.
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Cheers for that , my point was if there are no vents through the roof save SVPs and they appear to have finished the roof covering on that section how does it get from the roof to the duct ?? Can the a/c not be hot and cold ?? Suppose the corridors and open areas would/may be a problem ??
 
Penders1957 said:
Cheers for that , my point was if there are no vents through the roof save SVPs and they appear to have finished the roof covering on that section how does it get from the roof to the duct ?? Can the a/c not be hot and cold ?? Suppose the corridors and open areas would/may be a problem ??
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See my earlier post on the previous page, they wouldn't need ducted to the building, just cables to a collection control point.
 
tailspin747 said:
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‘If’ it is a case of it not fitting due to the angles, the only way I can see to secure it is to remove the plates highlighted in yellow. 3 of the 4 legs could then be bolted up. The other half of the cross connections on that leg could also be secured.

How the hell you would support those plates when reattaching them is another matter?!
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Ooooooh, so close!

They've done almost exactly that, as you can see in SS's latest video.

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10 points to Griffindor!
 
WARBABY said:
What as 4 legs 2 arms and wobbles




Answer:- an IKEA chair
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For some reason I always used to have a few wooden dowels left over. Probably due to me forgetting to knock them in.

I wonder if you can see the Etihad from the top of the IKEA car park? I might drive down and see if you can see it, and get some pictures.

Whilst I'm there I'll get some of those cheap but delicious hot dogs.
 
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Those 5th - 7th rows of bolt holes on the plates will take some blind reaching to tighten.

Once all connected, do we think they would sleeve over the connection or likely leave the cross exposed as is?
 
Coatigan said:
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Those 5th - 7th rows of bolt holes on the plates will take some blind reaching to tighten.

Once all connected, do we think they would sleeve over the connection or likely leave the cross exposed as is?
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I reckon they would cover it somehow.

Got a lot of bolts to fit, 184 by my count plus putting the 6 plates back.
 
IMHO this is poor design in that it’s not taken into account, enough, how it is to be fixed into position especially considering the height and the weight. IMG_0743.jpegpart in blue could have been fitted post installation and either bolted in situ or welded
 
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