Season Tickets - 2025/26 | Changes to ticket transfer this season (p101)

Tim of the Oak said:
There’s no aggression involved as we’ve seen by the reluctance to implement the minimum ticket requirements you’ve referred to.
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It currently doesnt effect me as I attend every game, but circumstances change. Where's this reluctance from the club to bring it in if it has already been at 10, 12, 14 and now 16 though Tim?
 
I would like to know what discussion there was round the 10 match attendance. For someone that drives hundreds of miles to get to a game, has to stay over in a hotel that is a very material change. When you consider midweek games, early kick offs and bad weather it will be touch and go if we can do ten. We have always used the exchange as we have nobody to pass the ticket to. Maybe next season will be it. @Alex - City Matters , can you shed any light on the rationale and wether this was accepted by CM or if it has just been introduced by the club?
 
Danny Hoekman said:
If you have a season ticket, surely you intend to go to every game, even if you end up not doing so for whatever reason? What's the point of having a season ticket if you don't??
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The point is that you know you can go to every game that you are able to get to, but if you live more than two hundred miles away this rules out evening or Boxing Day games unless you can afford to pay for an overnight stay more than once or twice a season, which I can’t. You also feel like you’re part of the club, even if the link is becoming ever more tenuous. And you make sure your seat is made available if you can’t use it, often for free in my case.

And what will be the result of people losing their tickets if they don’t make the ten game cut off? Do you seriously think these seats will remain available to new season card holders? Or will they be match day sales at twice the price? Hard to guess.
 
Danny Hoekman said:
If you have a season ticket, surely you intend to go to every game, even if you end up not doing so for whatever reason? What's the point of having a season ticket if you don't??
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You’re guaranteed a ticket and it’s a load cheaper than buying individual match tickets.

I’m a ST holder and miss several games a season, mainly because going to city is just one of a number of things in my life.
 
mayo31 said:
What City are looking to introduce should not stop anyone sending tickets on.

All everyone needs is one person who has a season card or a membership to be listed on their Friends and Family

If you cannot attend you transfer the ticket to them

The ticket goes to them in an email with a link. That can be sent to anyone then.

Also I am sure when you go to select the person on your F&F, it gives you a drop down option to choose their email or in fact your own email

You could send the ticket to your own email. Then you can send it to whoever you want to use the ticket
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I know some on here want to think that the only reason away fans end up in home ends because the club personally sells them to them, but it has been obvious for years that there are many season card holders who turn up for a handful of games (perhaps not even that, just touts) and sell "big" matches on for a profit themselves.

Impossible to know numbers on this, but we can't get fuming with the club for trying to create policies that somewhat limit those problems given the clumsy mechanisms that they have available to them.

Likewise the constant solution in the atmosphere thread is cheap season cards for younger people who turn up regularly and get to know each other. Well, how do you police people turning up?

None of this easy, policy never is easy, and every time you write a policy it will have unintended consequences. But these roughly seem to be intending to address the complaints of fans.

I don't think it's wildly unfair of them to be pressing the point that season cards are for people who can and do attend games, and I say that as someone who for next season am panicking about whether I can do 10 games.
 
It’s an absolute disgrace. They know full well there are very very very minimal people on flexi gold having done 16+ that will upgrade, with far full ST holders more likely to not renew.

Additionally, not being able to share your session ticket will drive numbers down even further. No doubt a huge backward step for everyone and the ‘city matters’ statement says it all - playing it off as a success??

What an absolute shambles.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
I know some on here want to think that the only reason away fans end up in home ends because the club personally sells them to them, but it has been obvious for years that there are many season card holders who turn up for a handful of games (perhaps not even that, just touts) and sell "big" matches on for a profit themselves.

Impossible to know numbers on this, but we can't get fuming with the club for trying to create policies that somewhat limit those problems given the clumsy mechanisms that they have available to them.

Likewise the constant solution in the atmosphere thread is cheap season cards for younger people who turn up regularly and get to know each other. Well, how do you police people turning up?

None of this easy, policy never is easy, and every time you write a policy it will have unintended consequences. But these roughly seem to be intending to address the complaints of fans.

I don't think it's wildly unfair of them to be pressing the point that season cards are for people who can and do attend games, and I say that as someone who for next season am panicking about whether I can do 10 games.
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Mate, you’d have a point here f the club weren’t happy to just tout them on to the highest bidder through 3rd parties
 
Obviously travelling down from Edinburgh this could and probably will have serious representations for a lot of us.
Will give it a go next season but if City take my season ticket off me then so be it.
I'm a FOC anyway
 
The club are clearly trying to incentivise ST holders to use their tickets more regularly which I get, although in doing so perhaps not considering those that travel long distances and other exceptional circumstances such as ill health. Trying to minimise ticket transfers to members only is poor form though and it’s purely motivated by greed as they want to sell those tickets for considerably more. They deserve swathes of empty seats next season and they may just get it.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I would like to know what discussion there was round the 10 match attendance. For someone that drives hundreds of miles to get to a game, has to stay over in a hotel that is a very material change. When you consider midweek games, early kick offs and bad weather it will be touch and go if we can do ten. We have always used the exchange as we have nobody to pass the ticket to. Maybe next season will be it. @Alex - City Matters , can you shed any light on the rationale and wether this was accepted by CM or if it has just been introduced by the club?
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Your situation, and similar for others, was exactly why the basic concept of flexi-gold made sense. The club, however, made it senseless.
 
I think 10 games for personal use is perfectly reasonable.

If you’re ill or can prove you’ve got personal issues that mean you can’t attend then if you speak to management in the ticket office they tend to be pretty amenable. But you should be proactive and not wait for them to take it off you and then act.
 
TheGhost said:
I think 10 games for personal use is perfectly reasonable.

If you’re ill or can prove you’ve got personal issues that mean you can’t attend then if you speak to management in the ticket office they tend to be pretty amenable. But you should be proactive and not wait for them to take it off you and then act.
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It's not school or the workplace it's going to a sporting event that the person has actually paid for. They shouldn't have to explain themselves to anybody if they can't attend. Prior to this new rule they could put every single ticket on the seat exchange for the club to resell, often for a lot more than they refunded the season ticket holder. The only reason for this new rule is to whittle away at season ticket numbers, as they know for many it could be hard to make even ten games personally due to the constant changes to kick off times. Look at our last three fixtures as an example.
 
Edghill OG said:
It currently doesnt effect me as I attend every game, but circumstances change. Where's this reluctance from the club to bring it in if it has already been at 10, 12, 14 and now 16 though Tim?
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My preference would be for the Club to leave it alone as this point. We’ve got 7k or 8k of extra seats to fill.

That said, if they aren’t ditching flexi-gold I can understand them wanting a certain degree of consistency in ticket policy. It would be bizarre if the much hated flexi-gold required attendance at ten game but the full season card accepted attendance (by the card holder) at less.

In addition, I’ve heard Danny Wilson talk about the integrity of the points system and to me it’s bollox. That said, there’s posters who derided supporters club members for jumping the ticket queue when it turns out some of the critics don’t fancy turning up for half our home games. Not only that, we are told that flexi-golds ( I could take or leave them) are a threat to generational supports but a zero attendance requiring season card is the panacea.

Like I say, I would have left it alone, mainly for the risk of unforeseen consequences that tend to happen each time the ticketing system is revised.
 
paulchapo said:
Fucking cameras on the turnstiles?? What if you wear a covid mask, a balaclava on a cold day etcetera? Orders from the Gestapo to remove it so the camera can capture your image? This is getting ridiculous now.
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I believe they’re gonna trial arse recognition cameras that are fitted to each seat next season.
 
Craig said:
Mate, you’d have a point here f the club weren’t happy to just tout them on to the highest bidder through 3rd parties
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I'd love to see the data the club have on this, and know all the ins and outs if their arrangements with third parties. As far as I know all the third party stuff the club "officially" does is for corporate only (including 93.20). I suspect the club isn't entirely sure themselves how away fans end up on home terraces. I know one of the lads near me who is the angriest about "tourists" bragged about how selling his Real Madrid ticket a few years ago basically paid for his season card that year. It's a bit of a mess, some of it of the club's making, 100%, but I think there's a fair few season card holders who take the piss as well. I just don't think there's easy solutions.
 
OllyMCFC said:
Just as for the utilisation 10 games has become 14 and 14 has now become 16.

They might require us to personally attend 10 this season but next season that’ll increase again without serious push back.
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The test on seasoncards will be in the ticketing of the new stand. If we do a Liverpool and only issue 1,000 season tickets, then it will become clear that the club is squeezing seasoncards.
 
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