Liverpool Thread | 2024/25

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Phone-in: 'Is Liverpool England's greatest football club?'published at 08:59 British Summer Time​

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BBC Radio 5 Live

The first hour of Nicky Campbell's phone-in on BBC Radio 5 Live this morning will be on Liverpool's title celebrations.

The question is: Is Liverpool England's greatest football club?

Expecting an interesting debate on that one...

You can watch and listen via the 'watch live' play icon at the top of this page.

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They're the greatest football club at winning the title when we can't be arsed.
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Rage bait for rags.
 
Stoned Rose said:
2 titles in 35 years is really cute.
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pre premier should be called the old days! Premier league started a new era regarding tv and money! So who won the most trophies since then?

Asked AI

To determine which English team has won the most trophies since the Premier League began in the 1992-93 season, we need to consider major domestic and international competitions. These typically include the Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup (EFL Cup/Carabao Cup), FA Community Shield, UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League, UEFA Cup Winners’ Cup (until 1999), UEFA Super Cup, FIFA Club World Cup, and, where relevant, the Intercontinental Cup. Minor or regional competitions, youth tournaments, and friendlies are generally excluded from "major trophy" counts.

Based on available data up to April 28, 2025, we focus on English clubs’ performances across these competitions from the 1992-93 season onward. The most successful clubs in this period are Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal, with others like Leicester City, Blackburn Rovers, and Newcastle United also winning trophies but in smaller numbers.

### Trophy Count by Club (1992-93 to 2024-25)
Here’s a breakdown of major trophies won by the top English clubs since the 1992-93 season, compiled from reliable sources:

- **Manchester United**:
- Premier League: 13 (1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2010-11, 2012-13)[](https://www.manutd.com/en/history/trophy-room/premier-league)
- FA Cup: 5 (1993-94, 1995-96, 1998-99, 2003-04, 2015-16)
- League Cup: 5 (1991-92*, 2005-06, 2008-09, 2009-10, 2016-17) *Note: 1991-92 is included as it’s often counted in United’s modern-era tallies, but we’ll adjust if strictly post-1992.
- Community Shield: 10 (1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013)
- UEFA Champions League: 2 (1998-99, 2007-08)
- UEFA Europa League: 1 (2016-17)
- UEFA Super Cup: 1 (1991*, adjusted out if strictly post-1992)
- FIFA Club World Cup: 1 (2008)
- Intercontinental Cup: 1 (1999)
- **Total**: 38 (or 37 if excluding 1991-92 League Cup/Super Cup)[](https://www.manutd.com/en/history/trophy-room/premier-league)[](https://www.livescore.com/en/news/five-most-successful-english-clubs-liverpool-manchester-united-arsenal-chelsea-manchester-city-2024022611164493635/)

- **Manchester City**:
- Premier League: 8 (2011-12, 2013-14, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2020-21, 2021-22, 2022-23, 2023-24)[](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/13136017/premier-league-winners-full-list-of-previous-champions-of-english-footballs-top-flight-by-year)
- FA Cup: 3 (2010-11, 2018-19, 2022-23)
- League Cup: 7 (2013-14, 2015-16, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20, 2020-21, 2023-24)
- Community Shield: 3 (2012, 2018, 2019)
- UEFA Champions League: 1 (2022-23)
- UEFA Super Cup: 1 (2023)
- FIFA Club World Cup: 1 (2023)
- **Total**: 24[](https://www.888sport.com/blog/most-successful-football-club-in-england)[](https://www.livescore.com/en/news/five-most-successful-english-clubs-liverpool-manchester-united-arsenal-chelsea-manchester-city-2024022611164493635/)

- **Chelsea**:
- Premier League: 5 (2004-05, 2005-06, 2009-10, 2014-15, 2016-17)[](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/13136017/premier-league-winners-full-list-of-previous-champions-of-english-footballs-top-flight-by-year)
- FA Cup: 6 (1996-97, 1999-00, 2006-07, 2008-09, 2011-12, 2017-18)
- League Cup: 4 (1997-98, 2004-05, 2006-07, 2014-15)
- Community Shield: 2 (2000, 2005)
- UEFA Champions League: 2 (2011-12, 2020-21)
- UEFA Europa League: 2 (2012-13, 2018-19)
- UEFA Cup Winners’ Cup: 1 (1997-98)
- UEFA Super Cup: 2 (1998, 2021)
- FIFA Club World Cup: 1 (2021)
- **Total**: 25[](https://www.livescore.com/en/news/five-most-successful-english-clubs-liverpool-manchester-united-arsenal-chelsea-manchester-city-2024022611164493635/)[](https://footballwhispers.com/blog/premier-league-winners-the-full-history-since-1992/)

- **Liverpool**:
- Premier League: 1 (2019-20)[](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/13136017/premier-league-winners-full-list-of-previous-champions-of-english-footballs-top-flight-by-year)
- FA Cup: 3 (2000-01, 2005-06, 2021-22)
- League Cup: 5 (1994-95, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2011-12, 2023-24)
- Community Shield: 3 (2001, 2006, 2022)
- UEFA Champions League: 2 (2004-05, 2018-19)
- UEFA Europa League: 1 (2000-01)
- UEFA Super Cup: 2 (2005, 2019)
- FIFA Club World Cup: 1 (2019)
- **Total**: 18[](https://www.livescore.com/en/news/five-most-successful-english-clubs-liverpool-manchester-united-arsenal-chelsea-manchester-city-2024022611164493635/)

- **Arsenal**:
- Premier League: 3 (1997-98, 2001-02, 2003-04)[](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/13136017/premier-league-winners-full-list-of-previous-champions-of-english-footballs-top-flight-by-year)
- FA Cup: 7 (1992-93, 1997-98, 2001-02, 2002-03, 2004-05, 2013-14, 2019-20)
- League Cup: 1 (1992-93)
- Community Shield: 5 (1998, 1999, 2014, 2017, 2020)
- **Total**: 16[](https://www.livescore.com/en/news/five-most-successful-english-clubs-liverpool-manchester-united-arsenal-chelsea-manchester-city-2024022611164493635/)

- **Other Clubs**:
- **Blackburn Rovers**: 1 (Premier League 1994-95)[](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/13136017/premier-league-winners-full-list-of-previous-champions-of-english-footballs-top-flight-by-year)
- **Leicester City**: 2 (Premier League 2015-16, FA Cup 2020-21)[](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/13136017/premier-league-winners-full-list-of-previous-champions-of-english-footballs-top-flight-by-year)
- **Newcastle United**: 1 (League Cup 2024-25)[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_competitive_honours_won)
- **Everton**, **Tottenham**, **Aston Villa**, etc.: 0 major trophies in this period based on available data.

### Analysis
- **Manchester United** leads with 38 (or 37) major trophies since 1992-93, driven by their 13 Premier League titles under Sir Alex Ferguson and consistent success in domestic cups and European competitions. Their dominance in the 1990s and 2000s, including the 1998-99 treble, sets them apart.[](https://www.manutd.com/en/history/trophy-room/premier-league)
- **Chelsea** follows with 25 trophies, bolstered by Roman Abramovich’s investment since 2003, leading to five Premier Leagues, multiple FA Cups, and European titles.[](https://www.livescore.com/en/news/five-most-successful-english-clubs-liverpool-manchester-united-arsenal-chelsea-manchester-city-2024022611164493635/)
- **Manchester City** has 24 trophies, with a surge since their 2008 takeover, including eight Premier Leagues and a 2022-23 treble. Their recent dominance (six titles since 2018) closes the gap with United.[](https://www.statista.com/statistics/383696/premier-league-wins-by-team/)[](https://www.888sport.com/blog/most-successful-football-club-in-england)
- **Liverpool** (18 trophies) and **Arsenal** (16 trophies) trail, with Liverpool’s European successes and Arsenal’s FA Cup record notable but insufficient to overtake the top three.[](https://www.livescore.com/en/news/five-most-successful-english-clubs-liverpool-manchester-united-arsenal-chelsea-manchester-city-2024022611164493635/)
- Posts on X suggest Liverpool fans claim superiority due to their total historical trophies (51, including pre-1992), but since 1992, Manchester United’s count is higher.[](https://x.com/premierleague/status/723134062609616896)[](https://x.com/premierleague/status/1127498918139498496)

### Conclusion
**Manchester United** has won the most trophies since the Premier League started in 1992, with approximately 38 major honors. Their record includes 13 Premier League titles, multiple FA Cups, League Cups, Community Shields, and European titles. Chelsea (25) and Manchester City (24) are close contenders, but United’s early Premier League dominance secures their lead. If you’d like a deeper dive into specific seasons, competitions, or sources, let me know!
 
It’s like stepping into RAWK this thread.

They’ve lost 2 matches all season, scored the most goals, won the most matches, conceded the second least amount of goals. If that’s down to luck, then they must have been shagging the lady herself.

They’ve won the league at a canter. We’ve done that on a number of occasions, but we weren’t saying we were lucky then. Ultimately, they’ve been better in most departments and the table shows that.
 
BlueTG said:
It’s like stepping into RAWK this thread.

They’ve lost 2 matches all season, scored the most goals, won the most matches, conceded the second least amount of goals. If that’s down to luck, then they must have been shagging the lady herself.

They’ve won the league at a canter. We’ve done that on a number of occasions, but we weren’t saying we were lucky then. Ultimately, they’ve been better in most departments and the table shows that.
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Yeah, it's been a poor league this season but they've been comfortably the best team and deserved to win it. Seeing them lift the trophy is never nice, but given that we've been out of the title race for months it's been less painful than I thought (plus the alternative was Arsenal winning it, which would've been somehow even more unpalatable). The media sycophancy has been nauseating, but I'm on a media blackout until the hype dies down. Let's see if they can do back to backs, as we'll be back stronger next season.
 
Yeah it was a boring season with no title race and relegation settled weeks ago, but you have to hand it to Liverpool they've been brilliant over the league campaign.
They're the team to beat also next season as they'll now spend on the squad.
As much as it pains me to say it, could be 2 in a row for them.

Our hopes are that they lose a bit of hunger, some of their signings don't work out, or that Van Dijk and Salah start to show their age. They can't go on forever.
 
IrishBlueSince92 said:
Yeah it was a boring season with no title race and relegation settled weeks ago, but you have to hand it to Liverpool they've been brilliant over the league campaign.
They're the team to beat also next season as they'll now spend on the squad.
As much as it pains me to say it, could be 2 in a row for them.

Our hopes are that they lose a bit of hunger, some of their signings don't work out, or that Van Dijk and Salah start to show their age. They can't go on forever.
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It's a new year next year and the scouse didn't dominate a good league or were challenged by any other team, we come out with an extra 10% and we win this league this season.

I predict they flounder again next season, 2 in a row isn't for the likes of the scouse.
 
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BlueTG said:
It’s like stepping into RAWK this thread.

They’ve lost 2 matches all season, scored the most goals, won the most matches, conceded the second least amount of goals. If that’s down to luck, then they must have been shagging the lady herself.

They’ve won the league at a canter. We’ve done that on a number of occasions, but we weren’t saying we were lucky then. Ultimately, they’ve been better in most departments and the table shows that.
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Do you really expect us to congratulate the bus wreckers? They were the best of a bad lot and fair play I suppose. Can we knock them off their perch? Maybe let's see what happens.
 
The perfect fumble said:

Phone-in: 'Is Liverpool England's greatest football club?'published at 08:59 British Summer Time​

08:59 BST​


afc1239b-7ccc-4f23-b0b7-57d5a7c37eba.jpg.webp
BBC Radio 5 Live

The first hour of Nicky Campbell's phone-in on BBC Radio 5 Live this morning will be on Liverpool's title celebrations.

The question is: Is Liverpool England's greatest football club?

Expecting an interesting debate on that one...

You can watch and listen via the 'watch live' play icon at the top of this page.

..............................

They're the greatest football club at winning the title when we can't be arsed.
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The correct answer is 'who the fuck cares'

But seriously with their fans record of Heysel, attacking team buses, throwing things from motorway bridges, throwing people into fountains, spitting at away teams management team, throwing pint pot full of coins. Not once do the fan base take responsibility and name these thugs.
The club hacking other clubs pc's.

Seriously with a record like that it's bizarre the bbc ask the question
 
Father Paul said:
Do you really expect us to congratulate the bus wreckers? They were the best of a bad lot and fair play I suppose. Can we knock them off their perch? Maybe let's see what happens.
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No, but the same people will be/have been screaming agenda when others claim the same about some of our titles won.
 
We've had months to reconcile ourselves with the fact it wasn't going to be us, weeks to reconcile that it was going to be them. Then there's the fact that we had the distraction of a really good day out yesterday which helped too, so my reaction to them winning it is simply a bit meh. Now got an in form Wolves to focus on so shan't be losing any sleep over the dippers.
 
give it to gordon said:
The correct answer is 'who the fuck cares'

But seriously with their fans record of Heysel, attacking team buses, throwing things from motorway bridges, throwing people into fountains, spitting at away teams management team, throwing pint pot full of coins. Not once do the fan base take responsibility and name these thugs.
The club hacking other clubs pc's.

Seriously with a record like that it's bizarre the bbc ask the question
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You forgot one mate

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They gonna probably improve even more next season. They kept their best players - Trent and they will probably gonna buy a striker, midfielder and two fullbacks. They always have Saudi Arabia who are dumb enough to pay 50 million for dross like Nunez
 
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