Rodrygo

Do they have pace, real pace?

Doku is incredibly quick over a couple of meters but not on longer runs, Savinio is far too happy to pass the ball rather than take on his FB.

We can do better than both for me especially if we want to compete.
I don’t know, I don’t think it’s as simple as getting rid of Doku n Sav and then we can compete, I see it as we need a change in playing style, then buy the players to suite however we want to play, atm it’s too slow and turgid in central defence and midfield for instance that needs to change.
 
Yep let’s go for another LW can’t have enough. 170M for 2 players who play that position. Good that you some here have nothing to say. Rodrygo ain’t a dribbler he would do worse than Doku in our slow game
Who said anything about replacing them? Just by getting rid of them, we'll be infinitely better
 
Do they have pace, real pace?

Doku is incredibly quick over a couple of meters but not on longer runs, Savinio is far too happy to pass the ball rather than take on his FB.

We can do better than both for me especially if we want to compete.
Was at the game yesterday saw nothing from either of them to change my mind we paid a lot of money for average players. They are inferior to players we’ve had before e.g. Mahrez Sane etc. these guys will get max 3 or 4 goals a season and not the 17/18 previous incumbents would have contributed. Doku makes all the wrong decisions like he did last season and both failed to win any 50/50 balls again. We can do better and buy better
 
There Is an argument they both should leave, are either good enough for an elite club?

Doku for me is a great 20 min impact player but that's it.
I'll definitely keep Doku. He has a unique skill set that can ve deadly in a very good squad.

Savio has potential, but im not sure we can wait. I waa never a fan of his at Girona. But he was young and productive so I get why we brought him in.

He clearly is unable to overcome our bad football at the moment :(
 
I'll definitely keep Doku. He has a unique skill set that can ve deadly in a very good squad.

Savio has potential, but im not sure we can wait. I waa never a fan of his at Girona. But he was young and productive so I get why we brought him in.

He clearly is unable to overcome our bad football at the moment :(
Deadly no chance with his decision making. Last season and this he’s the same not a chance he improves
 
Both shouldn't be moved on just yet. One more season for both. We wouldn't solve the consistency problem by bringing more wingers.
 
He has actually improved. The coaching and playing around him has deteriorated..

He actually hits the target more with his shots this season and his crossing has improved.

He is a definite keep for me as a backup
He was so poor and ineffective yesterday I’m just not seeing what you see
 
He was so poor and ineffective yesterday I’m just not seeing what you see
Well yesterday was a shit show. Everyone was poor. That's on Pep.

He is undefendable by 1 player. In a quick passing team he'd create havoc. But on Pep's sluggish 'lwr the center backs knock it around system ' the opposition is ready to double him every time, because they want him to pass it back to the threat-free Center backs. Which he had to often.

In games whee we have actual midfielders running the plays, he is so much better and harder to contain.

If you can consistently dedicate 2 players to anyone without suffering any consequences in other areas, that player will be stopped. Cant blame Doku for yesterday. He was a victim of our system and performance.

Thos is not to say he doesn't have his weaknesses, he does. He just has some unique traits too. And I'd like to keep those.
 
Good, I'll drop them off anywhere they want to go. They're absolutely fucking wank
I think the way we play currently, plays a role in how bad they look.

On a better coached team with quicker movement, both might be a lot better and worthy backups
 
I think the way we play currently, plays a role in how bad they look.

On a better coached team with quicker movement, both might be a lot better and worthy backups
But we've purposely changed the way to accommodate them. And what can we change that'll help them be able to cross a ball? Savinho either runs into defenders and loses the ball or checks back and plays it inside. Doku does a little jink, beats the man and then either crosses it against defenders shins or loses it.

The downgrade in quality from Sterling, Mahrez and Sane to what we have now is absolutely scandalous
 
But we've purposely changed the way to accommodate them. And what can we change that'll help them be able to cross a ball? Savinho either runs into defenders and loses the ball or checks back and plays it inside. Doku does a little jink, beats the man and then either crosses it against defenders shins or loses it.

The downgrade in quality from Sterling, Mahrez and Sane to what we have now is absolutely scandalous
I think you put Doku in any of those other teams and he'd have been a star. He isnt the goal scorer Sterling or Mahrez were but hed have created a boat load with the type of spaces they got.

I think its really hard to compare eras. Coz in parts of that era, we had the best teams, and beat teams with better individuals consistently.

Now we are in an wra where we need the best individuals at almost every position ro overcome other teams.

Just a different level of coaching in my opinion.
 
Well yesterday was a shit show. Everyone was poor. That's on Pep.

He is undefendable by 1 player. In a quick passing team he'd create havoc. But on Pep's sluggish 'lwr the center backs knock it around system ' the opposition is ready to double him every time, because they want him to pass it back to the threat-free Center backs. Which he had to often.

In games whee we have actual midfielders running the plays, he is so much better and harder to contain.

If you can consistently dedicate 2 players to anyone without suffering any consequences in other areas, that player will be stopped. Cant blame Doku for yesterday. He was a victim of our system and performance.

Thos is not to say he doesn't have his weaknesses, he does. He just has some unique traits too. And I'd like to keep those.
Oh so 50-50 balls he lost out on all of them like he always does. Sorry I don’t see a world class or potential world class winger in him. Hes average and better teams with better defenders always do well against him because of his poor decision making. He actually slows the game down so to suggest it’s not his fault just isn’t the cases
 

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