Bernardo Silva: “Something has to change. You learn who you can go to war with, first of all"

I'm going to assume there's no end of season CityTV documentary this year...

I reckon it's been a nightmare in there. The January signings must have wondered what they've walked into!

Fresh faces and the existing ones needing a massive reset is what's needed. It's a massive, massive window for Viana. I wonder if he expected it to be this big a job initially?!
 
Isn’t that what Viana is here to do? He came in two months early and will hopefully be starting to rustle a few feathers.

Feels like too many people got too comfortable in the last few years thinking success was inevitable.

I thought you were talking the Board of Directors, Khaldoon and the like.

You were talking some executive "board" or other?
 
Hard disagree with that about Jack. He's a £100m signing who's our third highest earner. He was very good for four months in the treble season but since then has barely kicked a ball. That's entirely down to him and his lack of professionalism.

I think the biggest failure of the club has been the failure of the hierarchy to challenge Pep regarding the rebuild. The whole idea of having a strong board is to challenge and push the club forwards.

I can't fathom for the life of me how they sat comfortably in meetings with the manager and said that this squad was fine for the season. It featured four midfielders over thirty and a DM who's cried out for support and said he can't play that many games again.

To not replenish and refresh is madness. The squad been eroded in quality and quantity for years. Those problems become even more exacerbated when you have injuries and players approaching the latter end of their careers.

The fact that we've spent £180m in January on players who've barely played is a worryingly concern. We shouldn't be in a race for top five having spent that money in January.

I don't like Bernardo's comments because he's been one of our worst players this season and we've got two huge games left. It looks like there's no harmony in the squad at all.

You can't honestly have been expecting Khusanov and Reis to play much?

Stones, Walker, Laporte, Dias, Rodri, Mahrez. All around £50-65m. All first team starters from the off. Some of these were a fair few years back and prices go up, yet we signed kids with barely a season in professional football each, who were playing in lower standard leagues. They were never going to be ready from the start.

Marmoush is a bit hit and miss for me. He also has only had one top season in Germany, and is a little frantic at times (everything he does is fast, which obviously stands out a mile in our team).

The bigger disappointment for me is Gonzalez. He's a decent age and came through at Barca, so I had hoped he'd be seen as ready. He's had a couple of decent games but doesn't quite have the awareness I'd hoped for yet. Maybe he gets there, but maybe we sign more midfielders and he's at the back of the queue still.

Saying Bernardo has been one of our worst is harsh too. I'd say the only thing he's guilty of is playing things safe and trying to keep the ball, but our shape is all over the place, and with Pep being so concerned about counters without Rodri, I can at least understand it. He's never given less than everything for us though and it's that I expect he isn't quite seeing from others at times. I'm glad he's calling it out android hope it's also done at the club also. Seems some need to buck their ideas up.
 
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a serous question, what is the meaning of go to war with somebody? Against or along with?
after reading the posts I'm quite sure there were at least three very different understandings of the phrase among people here.
I've always took it to mean "the people or person you would want in the trenches WITH you"
 
Hard disagree with that about Jack. He's a £100m signing who's our third highest earner. He was very good for four months in the treble season but since then has barely kicked a ball. That's entirely down to him and his lack of professionalism.

I think the biggest failure of the club has been the failure of the hierarchy to challenge Pep regarding the rebuild. The whole idea of having a strong board is to challenge and push the club forwards.

I can't fathom for the life of me how they sat comfortably in meetings with the manager and said that this squad was fine for the season. It featured four midfielders over thirty and a DM who's cried out for support and said he can't play that many games again.

To not replenish and refresh is madness. The squad been eroded in quality and quantity for years. Those problems become even more exacerbated when you have injuries and players approaching the latter end of their careers.

The fact that we've spent £180m in January on players who've barely played is a worryingly concern. We shouldn't be in a race for top five having spent that money in January.

I don't like Bernardo's comments because he's been one of our worst players this season and we've got two huge games left. It looks like there's no harmony in the squad at all.
Bernardo has been one of the players who have given their all this season. There's been times in the past when John Stones has looked like Franz Beckenbauer for us but looked dodgy as fuck for England. I always thought the difference was when Stones received the ball at City, he looked up and had Dias, Walker and Rodri as options but with England, he had Harry Maguire, Jordan Henderson and ok, Kyle Walker. Bernardo Silva was in our top three players for a long period around the treble season and earlier when he was with prime KDB, Rodri, prime Gundogan. He knew that making a risky pass would usually come off. Now he looks up and has plodders around him and Savinho ahead of him. He recycles the ball rather than put us at risk of losing possession and us being countered - something that usually ends up with us conceding a goal. He hasn't become a bad player overnight, his game has been affected by the team deteriorating around him.
 
I thought you were talking the Board of Directors, Khaldoon and the like.

You were talking some executive "board" or other?
It was someone else who brought up the idea of the board but I don’t really know how much involvement they have with the day to day running of the football itself so not sure Mancini would fit at that level. Txiki is/was Pep’s boss I assume, being Director of Football, so that’s the level where we first need to look when new ideas and strategy is needed for the football teams, and that’s Viana’s remit now. Maybe he doesn’t like what he’s seen.

I hope he doesn’t like what he’s seen because we’ve dropped off a cliff this season even if it just ends up 1st to 3rd.
 
It was obvious last Autumn that City needed some signings in the January transfer window and preferably a couple who would hit the ground running as opposed to potential "one for the future" Perrone types who are soon shipped off on loan essentially for long term profit.

Otherwise we would struggle for CL qualification

Somebody, who knows far more about football than any of us, then sanctioned around £180m from the transfer kitty.

However, somebody else who knows far more about football than any of us, then decided that they weren't really ready.

We should still just about scramble over the line for CL qualification, but any more crass errors and serious questions will need to be asked.
 
If you need to know who you're comfortable going to war with, have a look at our highest paid player, who bottled out of taking HIS penalty in the world's showpiece game of the season last Saturday.

Fuckin' bottler! What an example that was; what a testament to our season - and his. He's got a fuckin' long way to go to recover from that, in my eyes.

IMHO, that's who Bernardo's talking about - and it needed saying!
 
It was someone else who brought up the idea of the board but I don’t really know how much involvement they have with the day to day running of the football itself so not sure Mancini would fit at that level. Txiki is/was Pep’s boss I assume, being Director of Football, so that’s the level where we first need to look when new ideas and strategy is needed for the football teams, and that’s Viana’s remit now. Maybe he doesn’t like what he’s seen.

I hope he doesn’t like what he’s seen because we’ve dropped off a cliff this season even if it just ends up 1st to 3rd.

Fair enough. I was joking about Mancini on the Board with Khaldoon. On the other hand, it would be funny as fuck if it happened.

I wasn't joking about the lack of football knowledge at Board level, though. This idea of the Board appointing the best people and leaving them to it is likely to lead to eventual disappointment. They should always be challenged.

Fwiw, I worked with an industry leader who had a good marketing idea 30 years earlier and made a group worth billions on the back of it. No-one could ever challenge his marketing ideas. The last meeting I was in with him was about online selling, and his marketing input was "It's only the internet, it isn't going to change the world". Everyone needs to be challenged all the time, no matter how good they are/were. Everyone loses their sparkle. The trick for the Board is identifying it before it becomes a problem.
 
I'm going to assume there's no end of season CityTV documentary this year...

I reckon it's been a nightmare in there. The January signings must have wondered what they've walked into!

Fresh faces and the existing ones needing a massive reset is what's needed. It's a massive, massive window for Viana. I wonder if he expected it to be this big a job initially?!
Not as big a reset as massive man yoo, imagine supporting that massive club!
 
I think the same and yes, yes we do
We are seriously lacking in players like that ( Bernie slightly excepted). However when MGW tries his antics in a Blue God's Own shirt it will be HIM that's red carded NOT the opposition player.

We are reffed differently whatever we do. If Ortega or Eddie had handled that ball on Saturday they would have been off quicker than VAR can get a rat up a drainpipe
 
We are seriously lacking in players like that ( Bernie slightly excepted). However when MGW tries his antics in a Blue God's Own shirt it will be HIM that's red carded NOT the opposition player.

We are reffed differently whatever we do. If Ortega or Eddie had handled that ball on Saturday they would have been off quicker than VAR can get a rat up a drainpipe

An important point.
 

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