I mean we are linked to 4 good players + 1 unproven one in Wesley. That should be more than okay. Also I think 2 CB should leave so getting Reis snd Khusanov wasn’t wrong
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Pep Guardiola - 2024/25
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doobyedoobye
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Has he ever used words similar about quitting as a direct result of club interference previously?
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20 1st team players is fine as long as they stay fit, which is why he'll trim the odd injury prone player and a few of the oldies.
I'm not including players like Carson, technically Khusanov could come into it too, players it's easier to leave at home. Academy players come into that too.
Barcelona had 19 players over 1000mins this season, 8 players over 3000mins.
Real Madrid had 19 players over 1000mins this season, 9 players over 3000mins.
Arsenal had 20 players over 1000mins this season, 9 players over 3000mins.
Liverpool had 18 players over 1000mins this season, 10 players over 3000mins.
PSG had 19 players over 1000mins this season, 10 players over 3000mins. Shorter league season.
Bayern had 19 players over 1000mins this season, 5 players over 3000mins. Shorter league season.
Leverkusen had 18 players over 1000mins this season, 8 players over 3000mins. Shorter league season.
Inter had 19 players over 1000mins this season, 7 players over 3000mins.
City had 21 players over 1000mins this season, 7 players over 3000mins.
So Pep is right on the squad size, it needs trimming before bringing more quality in. 18-20 solid reliable players. If the injury prone stick around then they can't be counted in that 18-20 and have to be content with being left aside to protect them.
The issue is also the 11 that played the most minutes this season:
--------------Ederson
Lewis---Dias---Akanji---Gvardiol
-------Gundogan---Kovacic
Bernardo-----Foden-----Savinho
-------------Haaland
I've put Bernardo and Foden that way around because they've probably played like that more often than not.
I think if we'd have seen that pre-season, Stones, Walker, Rodri, De Bruyne and potentially Grealish/Doku not in the 11 with the most minutes, we'd have all said we're not winning the title. Then add in the players we would have expected like Foden, having absolutely shockers and it just compiles the misery.
This post ends the discussion.
That eleven gets you third even if playing at their best, which at least three of them haven't been.
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I don't know if it's been said before but sometimes I get the feeling it's all about Pep. I really hope he gives us a clutch of trophies over the next couple of seasons (another Champion's League would be wonderful) but why say what he did about squad sizes on KDBs night, knowing it was bound to be reported on. Time and place surely
Just looked at the squad at the back of last nights programme.20 1st team players is fine as long as they stay fit, which is why he'll trim the odd injury prone player and a few of the oldies.
30 players.
You could take Carson, Simpson Pusey and Mubama off that lost but its still leaving a big squad.
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Bobb
Savio
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Marmoush
24 ideal
vicblueman
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He ain't bigger than the club .Sounds like someone wants to leave. :(
He shouldn't be spouting off to the media .
Emotionally is he stable at the present ?
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I agree. It was not necessary.I don't know if it's been said before but sometimes I get the feeling it's all about Pep. I really hope he gives us a clutch of trophies over the next couple of seasons (another Champion's League would be wonderful) but why say what he did about squad sizes on KDBs night, knowing it was bound to be reported on. Time and place surely
I don't know if it's been said before but sometimes I get the feeling it's all about Pep. I really hope he gives us a clutch of trophies over the next couple of seasons (another Champion's League would be wonderful) but why say what he did about squad sizes on KDBs night, knowing it was bound to be reported on. Time and place surely
Sounds like someone wants to leave. :(
If you actually see the video it's nothing.
Who are we discussing here? Foden?He ain't bigger than the club .
He shouldn't be spouting off to the media .
Emotionally is he stable at the present ?
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24 ideal
That's not counting Echeverri either.
People might not like it, but I think we're going to have to tell a lot of the treble winners to move on to make room for the incomings.
Bernardo might be the lone stayer imo.
KDB, Kova, Stones, Akanji, Gundo they might all have to go. Ake too maybe? Gotta trim it down to 20ish.
I'm not Viana but I'm already getting a headache!
Typical pep making it about him .He should keep his thoughts to himself until we are out of this mess of his own making. If as some suggested he prioritised last night instead of the cup final then that's a disgrace. He had enough players to win both.
vicblueman
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P.gWho are we discussing here? Foden?
Foden coming out about mental health, his ankle pain & private issues hopefully helps him to heal .
Fuck the internationals of Phil have a rest with your family .
That's not counting Echeverri either.
People might not like it, but I think we're going to have to tell a lot of the treble winners to move on to make room for the incomings.
Bernardo might be the lone stayer imo.
KDB, Kova, Stones, Akanji, Gundo they might all have to go. Ake too maybe? Gotta trim it down to 20ish.
I'm not Viana but I'm already getting a headache!
Pep rates Akanji much higher than our fans.
Why would we keep Ake instead of Akanji when the latter's fitness record is much better and Pep played him over both Stones and Ake when the title was being decided last season? Because fans prefer Ake?
Edit: Also, the idea that we would go with only 2 experienced CBs in Dias and Gvardiol is nonsense. Ries might be loaned out but we are going to have at least 3 experienced CBs.
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I think it's just a continuation of what we've done the whole time under Pep. Haaland is the only genuine world star we have signed in Peps time alongside the odd deal for a ready made premier league player like Walker, Grealish, Kovacic or Mahrez.Thats the problem we have. Vianna is a "project player" guy. Pep is not. This is not Sporting , where u only have to be better than Benfica to win the league.. this is the big dogs. We are not Brighton taking on "punt" signings. We need top quality if we want to compete, or accept going backwards while we see if these project players echeverri reis khusanov wesley are good enough.. but pep is not a manager who will be disrespected by being given unproven potential to try and win things it will end in us not competing. So If him and Viana arent aligned. I could see how he would walk
Everyone else has been 19-24 yo and untested in England, including our spine in Ederson, Dias and Rodri.
None of us wanted Dias, we all wanted Koulibaly. Rodri got called to fuck on here by everyone now he's a Balon D'or winner. Sane was only 20 when he joined, same as Savinho. The rebuild going to take time.
I think the issue is that we've started the rebuild too late, whereas previously, we've had a continuation from great players already sorted. Dias and Kompany overlapped, Rodri and Fernandinho etc, Haaland a season after Aguero after failing to get Kane.
As long as we improve on this season i'll be happy. Marmoush and Gonzales showed yesterday what the future will hold.
If anything Pep's loyalty to the old guard is what has gotten us into this mess.
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I was thinking about Pep today and how he's the equivalent of eating at a 4-star Michelin restaurant. The only catch is it's the only restaurant you can eat at and it's been ten years. My point is no matter how great something is it will go stale in time. I'm not saying there's a better manager because there isn't, I'm just saying that maybe City need to try something new.
That being said, if he can right the ship and take City back to the top it will be his most impressive feat as a manager.
That being said, if he can right the ship and take City back to the top it will be his most impressive feat as a manager.
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