United Thread | 2024/25

[KentBlue]

My concern is that if their value and share price do take a big hit then surely rather than the club spiralling further down and collapsing into administration it would just open the door for a buyout from someone like the Qataris?

There is that, but under the Pisscan the club operated in a manner that made the mafia look like the Waltons. Dodgy dealings, brown envelopes etc. Of course we cannot prove any of this: we supporters are only aware of what happens on the pitch during match days, but you can bet your mortgage that the footballing hierarchy are more than aware of some of the underhanded machinations the rags have pulled in their time - the Pisscan and Gill period in particular.
The fact that the Glazers and their dealings are kept under wraps in the way that they are, Cayman Islands etc, doesn't help the rumours of cover ups and conspiracies that seem to go hand in hand with the rags.

If the Arabs -or anyone for that matter- had any serious intentions of a buyout the rag accounts would be put under so much scrutiny every last penny would need to be accounted for, and I cannot see the Glazers allowing that to happen.

 

[give it to gordon]

It must be killing Sly Stone to write this.

Fucking Karma, ya biatch!

In this period of brutal cost-cutting, it seems doubtful Ratcliffe will be commissioning an update any time soon. On the evidence here in Hong Kong and Malaysia, it is hard to imagine United have close to that number now.

Where once they dominated the Premier League commercially, now they trail Manchester City, who have generated greater prize money over the past decade.

United are not the draw they once were.

Stones never wrote that. Stones would have wrote " Manchester City who despite have 115 charges hanging over them have generated greater prize money over the last decade "

 

[heslops barnet]

See slimey still in Hong Kong, wish the **** would stay there

 

[jacko74]

There is that, but under the Pisscan the club operated in a manner that made the mafia look like the Waltons. Dodgy dealings, brown envelopes etc. Of course we cannot prove any of this: we supporters are only aware of what happens on the pitch during match days, but you can bet your mortgage that the footballing hierarchy are more than aware of some of the underhanded machinations the rags have pulled in their time - the Pisscan and Gill period in particular.
The fact that the Glazers and their dealings are kept under wraps in the way that they are, Cayman Islands etc, doesn't help the rumours of cover ups and conspiracies that seem to go hand in hand with the rags.

If the Arabs -or anyone for that matter- had any serious intentions of a buyout the rag accounts would be put under so much scrutiny every last penny would need to be accounted for, and I cannot see the Glazers allowing that to happen.

Yep, I've said previously, I'd read apparently the main reason that Qatar pulled out was because despite no doubt engaging the services of the very best accountants and auditors available to scrutinise united's books during the 6 months due diligence period they simply couldn't establish a clear picture of the state of united's finances or actual debt levels.

 

[N1985]

My concern is that if their value and share price do take a big hit then surely rather than the club spiralling further down and collapsing into administration it would just open the door for a buyout from someone like the Qataris?

The problem they have is the club is completely rotten. The stadium is absolutely fucked and the squad needs about £600/700 million invested into it to get it near a title challenge. Bleeding money and could very easily have a billion quid of debt in two seasons. Why would anybody outlay 5/6 billion or something with no infrastructure and no money. The rags name just isn't worth that much or carries that much weight anymore. Not when you could very easily buy a ready made team in the Premier League for far less. The worst thing that happened to them was City. I just don't think anybody else would want to come into the same city (technically not but you know what I mean) and compete or that kind of scale with us. They know if it happened, our owners would just go one better.

Plus the Glazers don't sell, they drain and run their business into the ground.

 

[Tracking back]

The problem they have is the club is completely rotten. The stadium is absolutely fucked and the squad needs about £600/700 million invested into it to get it near a title challenge. Bleeding money and could very easily have a billion quid of debt in two seasons. Why would anybody outlay 5/6 billion or something with no infrastructure and no money. The rags name just isn't worth that much or carries that much weight anymore. Not when you could very easily buy a ready made team in the Premier League for far less. The worst thing that happened to them was City. I just don't think anybody else would want to come into the same city (technically not but you know what I mean) and compete or that kind of scale with us. They know if it happened, our owners would just go one better.

Plus the Glazers don't sell, they drain and run their business into the ground.

That's lovely.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Things are getting serious for utd now the finances are being hit. This could be the biggest collapse of a football club for decades.

My brain can't even picture all of the shit that has happened at that club since Ferguson left. Its just so unbelievable, so much money and talent wasted.

And I think City's dominance has caused that to quite a large degree.

Sadly the PL will protect them like they did when the dippers nearly went bust when their former US owners bailed.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

My concern is that if their value and share price do take a big hit then surely rather than the club spiralling further down and collapsing into administration it would just open the door for a buyout from someone like the Qataris?

But their fans would campaign against being owned by someone who would run the club correctly and invest wisely in both on and off the pitch and give them a chance of really competing - but funded by dirty fucking oil Monopoly money that no one else can compete against.

 

[Vienna_70]

I just think he's hugely overrated.

Yes he might produce the very occasional decent through-ball or forward pass, but the amount of times he loses possession or goes missing altogether in games far outnumber his few quality moments.

If he’s so fucking great, why didn’t FC Franco, Brokelona, Bayern, City or any other top clubs pursue him, when the rags were chasing him?

 

[remember arthur mann]

You’re not alone. Not worth anywhere near £100m at his age and length of contract remaining. The scum are in deep shit, need to sell and have to take any offer for any player.

Goldfish said the rags always super inflate the players valuation, then in the next breath valued ratboy around 100/120 million stinkers. What a prat.

 

[mac]

See slimey still in Hong Kong, wish the **** would stay there

Be at home with all the slimyshit that is in the markets

 

[heslops barnet]

If he’s so fucking great, why didn’t FC Franco, Brokelona, Bayern, City or any other top clubs pursue him, when the rags were chasing him?

Big games he’s absolutely bobbins……..

 

[Vienna_70]

Big games he’s absolutely bobbins……..

My point exactly.

I remember in the League Cup semifinal at the swamp, Dinho said, "Hi" early in the game, and rat face was hardly seen after that.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

If he’s so fucking great, why didn’t FC Franco, Brokelona, Bayern, City or any other top clubs pursue him, when the rags were chasing him?

He's the perfect example of a player that could be one of the best in the world, but is happy to just rely on his talent rather than hard work, so he never quite reaches the heights. And the big clubs know that talent alone isn't enough. You have to have the workrate to go with it. There's not a consistently world class player on the planet that isn't incredibly hard working.

 

[jacko74]

But their fans would campaign against being owned by someone who would run the club correctly and invest wisely in both on and off the pitch and give them a chance of really competing - but funded by dirty fucking oil Monopoly money that no one else can compete against.

A small part of me almost would like to see them taken over by someone equivalent to our owners... it would be wonderful to see the mental gymnastics and back tracking that takes place from their fans after all the years of "oil money" and "state owned" etc etc

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

Big games he’s absolutely bobbins……..

Plus he's the biggest **** in the league

 

[Vienna_70]

A small part of me almost would like to see them taken over by someone equivalent to our owners... it would be wonderful to see the mental gymnastics and back tracking that takes place from their fans after all the years of "oil money" and "state owned" etc etc

Fuck that.

I want the bastards to continue to struggle financially, meaning that they can’t afford to bring in any players of quality, thus leading to a slow and painful downward spiral of relegation after relegation.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

One of the biggest made up lies ever and it's still going to this day.

Between June and August 2011, market research company Kantar conducted a poll of "nearly 54,000 adults in 39 countries" and concluded United had 659 million global "followers".

That's old news, we knew that years ago.

 

[dadnlad]

A small part of me almost would like to see them taken over by someone equivalent to our owners... it would be wonderful to see the mental gymnastics and back tracking that takes place from their fans after all the years of "oil money" and "state owned" etc etc

you've got some of that now mention debt oh not uniteds it's the owners debt , biggest income in pl so we can buy just read some bullshit they come out with when villa or newcastle fans mention psr is loaded in their favour live within means = dont dare catch up

 

[ancoats]

Stones never wrote that. Stones would have wrote " Manchester City who despite have 115 charges hanging over them have generated greater prize money over the last decade "

Man Utd second most valuable club despite struggles​

Forbes report: Manchester United world's second most valuable football club despite struggles

Manchester United are named the world's second most valuable football club behind only Real Madrid despite their recent struggles on the pitch.

www.bbc.co.uk