Tino Livramento

I wouldn't bother with any player that doesn't want to come here. £80m for a player that looks decent, but not great and might not make it is a bit much.
 
If Newcastle don't want to sell and the player loves the fog on the tyne etc we will move on. City are no mugs.
 
Vanderson 23 from Monaco.

Attacking fullback. Will probably cost more than the €11m Monaco paid Gremio.

Not the finished article but would be a reasonable price and a decent age to develop.
 
Yet he helped us win the treble..
still overrated in terms of his skill level...people were saying he was better than Foden in tems of individual skill level... and look at whathas happened....despite winning a treble his mentality, professionalism and contribution on the pitch have all come under serious question and he has been subsequently out of the team since winning the treble...despite being still around the peak age for a footballer....not even in he CWC squad...why? - cause he aint good enough and he is being sold...rightly so
 
This is exactly the public response you would expect from Eddie Howe and Newcastle,
Exactly
If the player wants a move that’s a start
Then you find out a fee
Then if it’s a fee we’re comfortable with
Then you try and negotiate down
Then the player has to push as well
It’s not a simple deal. Newcastle will want top dollar and that’s their right

Bit like the briefing saying we want £50m for Grealish
I read that’s as we’d take £40m in a heartbeat
 
For £80m there are much better options.
which options? Munoz and Aina ain’t long term enough. Vanderson isn’t HG. Maybe I don’t know about some hidden gems out there but those are the only 3 that come into my mind. Hakimi isn’t available for that price and wouldn’t move anyways let alone PSG wouldn’t even answer a call.
 
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Why? There aren’t many full backs with great assist stats. Walker was the best full back in the world for years wasn’t he?

I don’t remember him being a world class attacking player. 80m doesn’t guarantee anything
Peak Kyle was loads better IMO than current Livramento and for me peak Kyle wasn’t worth £80m in today’s market because of his limitations, such as lack of assists. And if £80m doesn’t guarantee you anything don’t spend it, which I doubt we will. £50m top price limit for TL for me.
 
The only clear option above anyone else at RB is hakimi and he isn’t available for 100 let alone 80M pounds.
I’m not sure about that at present. For me Dumfries is better, albeit older. Could sign him for a few years and wait for Rico and other academy products to come through. Paying £80m for Liveramento isn’t a great use of cash imo.
 
Got laughed at for posting this a few weeks ago. Turns out it's been the case all along. Who knew?
And now I’m going to laugh at you for quoting yourself. Obviously there is zero reason a player would want to move to City from Newcastle. In champions league, dirty oil money owners. Same exact clubs basically, right?
 
Exactly
If the player wants a move that’s a start
Then you find out a fee
Then if it’s a fee we’re comfortable with
Then you try and negotiate down
Then the player has to push as well
It’s not a simple deal. Newcastle will want top dollar and that’s their right

Bit like the briefing saying we want £50m for Grealish
I read that’s as we’d take £40m in a heartbeat
Maybe leave it to the people who know what they’re doing and get paid for that knowledge. Just a thought.
 
Waiting for Rico to get to a level that could step in for Dumfries we're all going to need to afford deep cryo freeze.

Now that's not kind! (But I admit I gave an evil chuckle). Rico's problem is very simple — he can play quite well in a number of positions. But he's not going to be first choice, or close to it, for any of them. So if he's prepared to be very rarely in the starting line-up, short of injury, but simply a squad player, all well and good.
I think he's a bit better than that, and could be a starting player elsewhere. The standards now set by MCFC are stratospheric and merciless. That's the price you pay…
 
Peak Kyle was loads better IMO than current Livramento and for me peak Kyle wasn’t worth £80m in today’s market because of his limitations, such as lack of assists. And if £80m doesn’t guarantee you anything don’t spend it, which I doubt we will. £50m top price limit for TL for me.
Problem with comparing him to Walker is that Walker is the best RB the prem has ever seen. It’s very hard to replicate but we can albeit at a different level
 
Not sure if the huge fee is justified
but I think we all knew we will have to over pay by like 40 mil if we get Livra. He’s English and 22. There’s no way around it. He hasn’t pulled up any trees but he’s still a really good player.
Great engine
Good tackler
Pretty fast not Walker fast but still fast
Decent going forward

I too would love to get a Hakimi if we’re spending stupid money on a FB but is he available. We don’t have the HG numbers.
If Trafford was wanted back by the club and we signed MGW then yea for sure i’d be expecting the club to go after him but with the rebuild we have … I don’t
 

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