PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

City have an arena worth £450 million they could sell to themselves.

We only own half of it.

How can it possibly be right that infrastructure costs are excluded from the PSR calculation but when they are sold they count towards it?

What is to stop us building an even bigger hotel/entertainment complex for £1bn next to the ground then sell parts of it off every year to boost our income for PSR purposes.
 
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We only own half of it.

How can it possibly be right that infrastructure costs are excluded from the PSR calculation but when they are sold they count towards it?

What is to stop us building an even bigger hotel/entertainment complex for £1bn next to the ground then sell parts of it off every year to boost our income for PSR purposes.

The initial construction costs of the Co op Live were £450 million, just reading it had a turnover of £852 in its first year. So it’s value on a balance sheet is probably worth a lot more than that initial figure even if City received half of it.
 
UEFA have not accepted Chelsea's hotel and women's team scam...

"Clubs were required to perform adjustments, as profits from such transactions cannot be recognised as relevant income according to the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Sustainability Regulations – Edition 2024 (“Regulations”)."

That will put pressure on the Premier League. I think they are still reviewing some of what Chelsea have done.
My reading of it is we spent more than allowed both in total but when looking at squad ratio costs we were significantly over .

In terms of the PL allowing the sale of hotels/ woman’s teams and indeed some of our transfers it seems that UEFA either disallowed them in total or in part.

The PL clubs effectively didn’t agree to rule changes that would close the ability to likewise disallow these type of transactions

In terms of our income save the sums described above our income has been way outstripped by our spending so it was inevitable that we were going to get fined.Theres absolutely no doubt CL qualification, CWC income will be significantly more for 25/26 and to a lesser degree 24/25.

The question of a Front of Shirt Sponsor and indeed other sponsorship from our perspective needs to be advanced in 25/26

I believe that our agreement with UEFA already acknowledges that we had / will be in breach for the next assessment year. I would guess that’s why we have been hit with a bigger fine but also its interesting that we have 4 years to sort out matter whereas others who likewise have been over have lesser fines and less years to resolve their problems.



The wording around squad costs sanction is not just clumsy it’s a nonsense. The use of the word new player means what ? New to the club or new to the A List. But even then what A list ? The 24/25 one or the September 25 list ? Even then what do they mean will all player costs be included ( amortisation/ wages / agent fees ) on a player by player basis

Our owners don’t actually consider the risk in terms of getting a financial penalty as a reason not to overspend.

A question I asked elsewhere would we have qualified for the CL and with it the riches, would we have got the Semis of the CWC, advanced our 24/25 Pl merit payments by circa 25% of the fine, had we not overspent? Of course we don’t know but what we do know is that we have and when you look at the £30 million fines and measure that against the additional income they will have considered it a risk worth taking.

I am not trying to justify anything but just shows you how those that operate in the wider business world treat the regulations with contempt
 
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The initial construction costs of the Co op Live were £450 million, just reading it had a turnover of £852 in its first year. So it’s value on a balance sheet is probably worth a lot more than that initial figure even if City received half of it.
Bit of a lemon if it’s only turned over just under a grand…
 
My reading of it is we spent more than allowed both in total but when looking at squad ratio costs we were significantly over .

In terms of the PL allowing the sale of hotels/ woman’s teams and indeed some of our transfers it seems that UEFA either disallowed them in total or in part.

The PL clubs effectively didn’t agree to rule changes that would close the ability to likewise disallow these type of transactions

In terms of our income save the sums described above our income has been way outstripped by our spending so it was inevitable that we were going to get fined.Theres absolutely no doubt CL qualification, CWC income will be significantly more for 25/26 and to a lesser degree 24/25.

The question of a Front of Shirt Sponsor and indeed other sponsorship from our perspective needs to be advanced in 25/26

I believe that our agreement with UEFA already acknowledges that we had / will be in breach for the next assessment year. I would guess that’s why we have been hit with a bigger fine but also its interesting that we have 4 years to sort out matter whereas others who likewise have been over have lesser fines and less years to resolve their problems.



The wording around squad costs sanction is not just clumsy it’s a nonsense. The use of the word new player means what ? New to the club or new to the A List. But even then what A list ? The 24/25 one or the September 25 list ? Even then what do they mean will all player costs be included ( amortisation/ wages / agent fees ) on a player by player basis

Our owners don’t actually consider the risk in terms of getting a financial penalty as a reason not to overspend.

A question I asked elsewhere would we have qualified for the CL and with it the riches, would we have got the Semis of the CWC, advanced our 24/25 Pl merit payments by circa 25% of the fine, had we not overspent? Of course we don’t know but what we do know is that we have and when you look at the £30 million fines and measure that against the additional income they will have considered it a risk worth taking.

I am not trying to justify anything but just shows you how those that operate in the wider business world treat the regulations with contempt
The way some owners are spending suggests they don't believe the regs will survive much longer
 
The initial construction costs of the Co op Live were £450 million, just reading it had a turnover of £852 in its first year. So it’s value on a balance sheet is probably worth a lot more than that initial figure even if City received half of it.
£852 seems low. I earn that a month from my YouTube channel.
 
When are we going to sell our womens' tean and our training facilities back to ourselves? Seems like we need some tutorials on cheating from Chelsea FC, amongst others.
Or perhaps we're just trying to stay within the spirit of the rules.

How dare we
 
Afternoon all. So just catching up after a few weeks hiatus.
Let me get this right. Chelsea and Villa got heavy fines yesterday for financial breaches. Yet We got how many years of investigation from uefa trying to shaft us??
I hope we sell the hotel for 300 plus million to ourselves
 
Uefa very soft on these punishments since they got showed up at CAS vs us.
so strange they wanted 2 year CL ban when it was us. if anyone else its mostly smaller fines, despite repeat offences like Chelsea, Barca.
but in hindsight even the 10m euros penalty looks huge we got for not cooperating given that clubs that knowingly overspend break rules get less fines than that currently.
current rate for non cooperation feels like would be 0.3m pounds lol for any other club.
Have either had their squads limited for this season?
 
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I copy slbsns take on this and to be honest immediately I read the Sanctions agreement I thought that the wording is not only clumsy but without wider context there is absolutely no chance of making a valid call
That means they can’t register any new player on that list as of the date the rule is dated.
 
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