Pep Guardiola - 2025/26

One side has it wrong: you can't say he's past it purely on the basis of one season. The evidence is not enough to draw such a conclusion, especially given the context: a somewhat tired team (4 titles in a row!), aging players and many injuries.

On that logic, Ferguson was past it in 2004, 3 years before his next PL title. Obviously, he wasn't, even though United were relatively poor for several years. And it's not like Pep has been underwhelming for 3 years now. We are 2 years after the Treble, one year after 4 in a row, and less than one year since going 26 games unbeaten in Europe...

Time will tell. Right now it's premature to argue Pep is past it.
My point is there is no conclusive evidence on either side because we are looking into the future. How Baconface evolved and adapted has zero bearing on Pep, who is currently showing some reluctance.

Only time will tell. In the meantime it’s entirely a matter of opinions.
 
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My point is there is no conclusive evidence on either side because we are looking into the future. Only time will tell. In the meantime it’s entirely a matter of opinions.

You can't say that 15 years of success and 1 bad year have the same evidential weight. Not even close.

Pep will be back. I think we'll be brilliant next season.

People are free to question him as much as they want. But questioning him after one bad season after 4 years of unseen success in English football is both unjustified and disrespectful.
 
You can't say that 15 years of success and 1 bad year have the same evidential weight. Not even close.

Pep will be back. I think we'll be brilliant next season.

People are free to question him as much as they want. But questioning him after one bad season after 4 years of unseen success in English football is both unjustified and disrespectful.


You need to Google the difference between “evidence” and “opinion”.

For instance, a sentence starting “I think” is usually nothing more than an opinion.

Once you’ve done that, maybe you’ll learn that you’re the one disrespecting others.

Tolerance is a two-way street, mate.
 
He's a world class coach but still decides to play a Gundo and Bernardo midfield when it gets overun time and time again. That's the decision that I can't understand.

34 year old Gundo is played as a 6 instead of the young Nico Gonzalez who's 23 years old and has played well for us in every appearance.
 
You need to Google the difference between “evidence” and “opinion”.

For instance, a sentence starting “I think” is usually nothing more than an opinion.

Once you’ve done that, maybe you’ll learn that you’re the one disrespecting others.

Tolerance is a two-way street, mate.

Most reasonable people form their opinions based on the available to them evidence and their ability to process it.

It's obvious that 15 years of success don't weight the same as one bad year (marred by injuries, etc.). The recency bias has gotten the better of some on here.

Again, questioning one of the best managers in history, one who has been exceptional for the club, on the basis of one bad year is both daft and disrespectful. Well done.
 
Most reasonable people form their opinions based on the available to them evidence and their ability to process it.

It's obvious that 15 years of success don't weight the same as one bad year (marred by injuries, etc.). The recency bias has gotten the better of some on here.

Again, questioning one of the best managers in history, one who has been exceptional for the club, on the basis of one bad year is both daft and disrespectful. Well done.
No point in engaging further with someone so blinkered. Let’s leave it there.
 
Most reasonable people form their opinions based on the available to them evidence and their ability to process it.

It's obvious that 15 years of success don't weight the same as one bad year (marred by injuries, etc.). The recency bias has gotten the better of some on here.

Again, questioning one of the best managers in history, one who has been exceptional for the club, on the basis of one bad year is both daft and disrespectful. Well done.
Id agree if he didn't go to the club world cup with no injuries and do the same things . Same players picked , same tactics , same goals conceded , same games lost .
 
Id agree if he didn't go to the club world cup with no injuries and do the same things . Same players picked , same tactics , same goals conceded , same games lost .

Rodri is still recovering, he could start only one game. We are a very different team with him in good form.

Dias, Bernardo and Gvardiol are tired from last season but were needed in the US, couldn't afford to rest them both.

One shouldn't expect wonders from the new players. They did well bar vs AH.

Generally, the transition from a team with KDB, Stones, Walker, Ake, prime Gundogan, prime Bernardo, etc. to a new strong team is not supposed to be easy and quick. It will take time.

Personally, I'd have played Gonzalez over Gundo vs AH, but Pep's decision is not a reason to think he's past it. Even the best managers can make mistakes and have setbacks.
 
Know when to stop.

No offense but I don't think you get my point.

It's not about whether it's possible that Pep is past it. Yes, it's possible. It's always possible that a successful career comes to an end.

The question is about probabilities: given Pep's career so far, how likely is it that he is past it?

While it's equally possible that he is and isn't finished at that level, it's far less likely that he is past it than he isn't. That's all. If he has no success over the next two seasons, then it will be different.
 
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You can't say that 15 years of success and 1 bad year have the same evidential weight. Not even close.

Pep will be back. I think we'll be brilliant next season.

People are free to question him as much as they want. But questioning him after one bad season after 4 years of unseen success in English football is both unjustified and disrespectful.
Disrespectful? For having concerns about a football manager's decision making?
 
We were good in the first half vs Al-Hilal couldn't finish them off and due to his playing style we are vulnerable to the counter attack.
 
We were good in the first half vs Al-Hilal couldn't finish them off and due to his playing style we are vulnerable to the counter attack.
We were. But we couldn't finish them off because the majority of those who could finish them off were sat on the bench.
 
Disrespectful? For having concerns about a football manager's decision making?

Having concerns is one thing, not giving him the benefit of the doubt, saying or implying he's totally wrong and done at this level (yes, there are such posts) is something else altogether. Pep deserves at least the benefit of the doubt.
 

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