Fluminense have only reached the final of the CWC once the year we played them I remember speaking to their fans and they were buzzing to be there for the first timeI. find it funny that many who were opposed to the ESL are happy with the global compomise.
Fluminese reach a lot of finls of the old format and the qtrs and semis are dominaed by european teams, so nothing new or spectacular has happened to improve the game.
This isn't progress it's same ol same old with the top teams raking it in.
until we see where the money being reinvested goes it is no more than what we already have.
in my opinion, and that is my problem with it, it is the same shit rebanded and being lapped up won't stop a club in panama going bust or save Wednesday or Brescia from a **** of an owner tearing them. apart
It’s like those City fans who used the say they hated European football….till we won the CL. Lots of people are resistant to change.That's the thing. Nobody seems to be able to start with any valid criticisms. Everything raised has been superficial nonsense and nothing to do with the nature of the tournament.
Try to list what you think is wrong with the tournament and let's see if you can do better than the two you mentioned.
Think we need to see how it effects those teams that have been out there for 4 weeks in the middle of a summer all their rivals have .had a summer off. If Chelsea come back next wee their players will either get 4 weeks off and no pre season, or if they are lucky 2 weeks off.That's the thing. Nobody seems to be able to start with any valid criticisms. Everything raised has been superficial nonsense and nothing to do with the nature of the tournament.
Try to list what you think is wrong with the tournament and let's see if you can do better than the two you mentioned.
That’s all superficial nonce sense if you’re a half wit.Think we need to see how it effects those teams that have been out there for 4 weeks in the middle of a summer all their rivals have .had a summer off. If Chelsea come back next wee their players will either get 4 weeks off and no pre season, or if they are lucky 2 weeks off.
Either must have some impact. Players don’t get many summers off, losing this one could hurt them either short or long term.
Personally I’m happy we got knocked out early with no injuries and time to get 4 weeks off.As for the games only watched ours and have no interest since we got knocked out and have yet to meet a fan of a team not in it that has watched any of it,or even discusses it.
Thinking the champions league formatand set up is shite is not hating european football, I started a whole thread how I would have been happy to be in the europa league and want to see us win itIt’s like those City fans who used the say they hated European football….till we won the CL. Lots of people are resistant to change.
Agree 100 per cent about formats but there are those who don’t like the idea of a CWC full stop. The quality of football in this tournament has mostly been superb and much better than international football. The crowds have mostly been huge, especially in the knock-out stages. You would think City fans, more than most, would not be taken in by the fake news media.Thinking the champions league formatand set up is shite is not hating european football, I started a whole thread how I would have been happy to be in the europa league and want to see us win it
Wording is everything, and even after winning it I find the champions league a necessary evil, that unfortunately we need to be in and also win.
And I will savour every one we win like I do every league cup, FA Cup and any other knock out competition we may enter
The knock out stage stadiums have only been 54% full.Agree 100 per cent about formats but there are those who don’t like the idea of a CWC full stop. The quality of football in this tournament has mostly been superb and much better than international football. The crowds have mostly been huge, especially in the knock-out stages. You would think City fans, more than most, would not be taken in by the fake news media.
I think 20k and 30k crowds is perfectly reasonable to expect for two unfancied teams. The percentage is largely irrelevant. The proper world cup would be the same for e.g. Jamaica v Japan held in the UK. The competition has to have representatives from each confederation otherwise it would be almost just European teams competing so this sort of match up is inevitable.The knock out stage stadiums have only been 54% full.
I haven’t really watched any of the games but I thought the early afternoon kickoff games were supposed to have been played at walking pace due to the heat. That’s only what I’ve read.
You make some fair comments.I think 20k and 30k crowds is perfectly reasonable to expect for two unfancied teams. The percentage is largely irrelevant. The proper world cup would be the same for e.g. Jamaica v Japan held in the UK. The competition has to have representatives from each confederation otherwise it would be almost just European teams competing so this sort of match up is inevitable.
For me though, I don’t think anybody knows yet if this CWC is a good thing or not. There’s certainly concern from players and clubs about too many games, but there’s no way of making room for it because any reduction in CL or PL games will get voted down by clubs not in a position to qualify for the CWC (the vast majority). In the WC players want to represent their nations as a matter of honour and pride, especially when geopolitics comes into play, but that factor is completely missing from the CWC.
I’ve also mentioned previously about how the WC is a 2 year qualifying period and this generally ensures the better teams arrive at the tournament. Again the CWC fails with its 4 year qualification period, City being a perfect example. Our team had disintegrated from the point of qualifying to when the tournament arrived and we may suffer next season as a result. Whilst it created a few shocks by allowing unfancied but in-form teams to beat out-of-form bigger teams, it’s probably not going to make much of a difference to who the eventual winners are. In my view it should be a bi-annual tournament but smaller. I reckon when it is played again in 2029, it’ll still come as a surprise to most football fans. At this rate it’ll take 5 or 6 iterations to take off.
That’s if they can make it financially viable (i.e. not subsidised by a single nation).
Do you think something has changed from Euro ‘96 which was held in England? 20k at St James’ Park. 37k at the swamp and that was for a Germany game. I guess we’ll find out in 3 years if they can sell out. The UK is probably the best place to get big crowds for the smaller games as we have lots of communities living here that might represent most of the qualifying nations.I think every game in a UK World Cup would sell out.
Me too, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, Columbus, Orlando, Fort Lauderdale, Miami then back to Orlando. Five matches, four new grounds ticked off and best of all watching City abroad. (And seeing Vinny in Miami).Loved it, cant wait for the next one.
100% really hope city get to the next one. I’d never even consider going to the US to watch city in pre season but didn’t hesitate at all going over for this. Although I do think it would be better and more supported in Europe on a personal point I’d rather it be in some obscure part of the world with good weatherLoved it, cant wait for the next one.
Is there not a third place game ?Torn between hoping these cockney twats get battered or getting to the final, meaning no pre-season and next season wrecked before its even started.... win-win I guess
Good point... not sureIs there not a third place game ?
No Third Place game. FIFA missed a trick there lol.Is there not a third place game ?
I love the concept, great idea, but its insane weather wise.Torn between hoping these cockney twats get battered or getting to the final, meaning no pre-season and next season wrecked before its even started.... win-win I guess
I think Euro 96 changed the game in this country. The middle classes bought into the game at that tournament.Do you think something has changed from Euro ‘96 which was held in England? 20k at St James’ Park. 37k at the swamp and that was for a Germany game. I guess we’ll find out in 3 years if they can sell out. The UK is probably the best place to get big crowds for the smaller games as we have lots of communities living here that might represent most of the qualifying nations.
I agree though that I too want there to be a CWC, but I have this feeling that this year’s might be a one off. The players might be the ones to pull the plug on it.