PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

slbsn said:
It is quite unusual actually in England and the time for that has passed. Which is why the government are in the dark about the case and why there is a potential diplomatic issue if City lose. If displomacy/influence had played out, there wouldn't have been a 12 week trial where the PL alleged City's owners to have committed wholesale false accounting and nor would UEFA have done the same earlier.

But regardless, that some kind of horse trading is going on to settle matters is not what PB is alleging. He is saying City have won, it has been decided and the PL have asked (and City have agreed) to hold publication.
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Yes. That’s why I like PB’s version, unlikely as it is.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I don’t know what motivation the PL had for bringing this case in the first place. But you can’t rule out old-fashioned malice, corruption, and politics like we have seen in cases like the Post Office scandal.
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You can't rule those out because that has been the clear intention from the outset. A systematic, mainstream media backed smear campaign launched with the sole intention of denigrating the achievements of Manchester City and besmirching the reputation of our owners in the futile hope that they would walk away, and in so doing removing what we represent ie a huge threat to the viability of the cartel and its membership.
 
There's also the possibility that someone in a high position has decided to make PBs day by spinning him the yarn that he wanted to hear, but then further down the line it turns out that we win and Masters gets replaced....
 
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slbsn said:
It is quite unusual actually in England and the time for that has passed. Which is why the government are in the dark about the case and why there is a potential diplomatic issue if City lose. If displomacy/influence had played out, there wouldn't have been a 12 week trial where the PL alleged City's owners to have committed wholesale false accounting and nor would UEFA have done the same earlier.

But regardless, that some kind of horse trading is going on to settle matters is not what PB is alleging. He is saying City have won, it has been decided and the PL have asked (and City have agreed) to hold publication.
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I admire your optimism about the lack of corruption in the Uk but I don’t share it. We have seen scandal after scandal in banking, media, health, the police, education, and of course politics. What about the infected blood scandal or Hillsborough or Grenville Towers or multiple hospital deaths. Why should football governance be an exception. I have experienced corruption directly throughout my career in various organisations.
 
slbsn said:
Joking aside, this is literally what we are being asked to believe unless we have completely misunderstood PBs post except there is probably another 50 professionals on each side also being asked to keep the secret - lawyers, accountants etc. And there is still the question as to the basis on which the PL Board do not share this material development with the shareholders (the clubs and the FA) at all. It could also be necessary to inform UEFA as part of the licensing process for the CL so they have also kept it to themselves.

Make it 2 bottles - in fact, given it would mean the most spectacular win and fiasco at the PL, I'll chip in a bloody 6 bottle crate. And you can hold me to it.
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Blimey.
So there are a lot of people working in this loop so why is the writing up taking so much time, surely if decision made the reasoning has been discussed and it's legal write up happens with one of the 50 in the know.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Blimey.
So there are a lot of people working in this loop so why is the writing up taking so much time, surely if decision made the reasoning has been discussed and it's legal write up happens with one of the 50 in the know.
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No. 50 lawyers on each side waiting for 3 panel members to issue a decision.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I admire your optimism about the lack of corruption in the Uk but I don’t share it. We have seen scandal after scandal in banking, media, health, the police, education, and of course politics. What about the infected blood scandal or Hillsborough or Grenville Towers or multiple hospital deaths. Why should football governance be an exception. I have experienced corruption directly throughout my career in various organisations.
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Regardless. It isn't what PB is suggesting
 
Could @slbsn and @Prestwich_Blue pls have an adult chat about the veracity of their respective sources, this could be done without naming names, and certainly not sharing sensitive info on here. My heart wants PB to be itk but my head says it must be Stefan who is on the money. However they could resolve it and issue a joint post eg "Yes @Prestwich_Blue is correct, I'll get the champers". That would be lovely.
 
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Prestwich_Blue said:
Based on the little I know, my understanding is that the outcome has been decided for a few months.

The PL have requested the delay in publication and my supposition is that they want the time to headhunt a new CEO, because Masters won't survive once the verdict is public.
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Not this fucking look-at-me fabricated horseshit again. We get it, you know someone that knows someone that knows someone that has a friend that knows someone that maybe works at the club. Cool, you have 'a source'. Bravo big guy.

Or you have made some conspiratorial shit up, and have been repeating it every month, and using the old 'source' to make it sound credible, when it is clearly bollocks.

And repeat again in a month.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I could well be wrong but people seem to have this notion that everyone at City would know what the outcome was if it had been reached. And if it was informally communicated in April, then it'll still be the same outcome in August. The delay isn't going to change that.

But it's been said before that both my source and Stefan & Ahsan's source could be telling the truth. The knowledge could be restricted to a handful of individuals on both sides, who have agreed to non-disclosure. I'd postulate that, if I'm right, the knowledge is limited to board members only and maybe only Khaldoon & Simon Cliff at City. Maybe John Macbeth as well. The Chief Marketing and Finance Officers, who are not main board members, may not know.

If we go back to 2008, there was no leak prior to the day of the announcement of the sale to ADUG. That's because they'd insisted on strict NDAs, documents that the Everton board wouldn't sign but we did, which led to ADUG withdrawing from negotiations with Kenwright.

While City may not be too keen on the PL leadership currently, I can't imagine they want the complete chaos that might ensue from a bombshell announcement and (as one journalist speculated) civil war if the PL, or some of its members, are shown to have acted in bad faith.
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And yet somehow those very few, extremely high level individuals, who are bound to secrecy amongst a very restricted circle.. have managed to tell YOU about, to openly post it all on bluemoon. Ok pal.

Give over, you are clearly wumming the place up for a few bravado brownie points.
 
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