PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[bladdered]

He’s hardly going to come out and claim anything other than total innocence publicly, but he’s a pragmatic businessman and will act in the best interests of the club. If that meant taking a relatively small financial hit again on a lesser charge to end this, I personally think we would. A sporting sanction, like a significant points deduction, would obviously be contested.

But a pragmatic businessman does not do billion pound deals in the White House one week and then accept a paltry fine from a bunch of no marks the next week. Khaldoon and Mansour's reputations are worth much more than a slapped arse fine.

 

[Mcfc1.9.8.0]

He’s hardly going to come out and claim anything other than total innocence publicly, but he’s a pragmatic businessman and will act in the best interests of the club. If that meant taking a relatively small financial hit again on a lesser charge to end this, I personally think we would. A sporting sanction, like a significant points deduction, would obviously be contested.

Well then we will be guilty in most people’s eyes and that will be the 3rd time we’ve been found guilty if he’s Adam’s we are innocent he shouldn’t accept a fine on a lesser charge it’s taken 3 years let it take another 3 years and fight it all the way rather than just taking a hit on a smaller charge

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

He’s hardly going to come out and claim anything other than total innocence publicly, but he’s a pragmatic businessman and will act in the best interests of the club. If that meant taking a relatively small financial hit again on a lesser charge to end this, I personally think we would. A sporting sanction, like a significant points deduction, would obviously be contested.

It depends how big any fine for non-coperation is. We were only given a reduced fine of £10m by CAS when we totally refused to co-operate with UEFA and even issued a rare press statement essentially saying we didn't trust them (because of the leaks etc). The PL case can't be as serious for any non-cooperation because we must have shared most documents with them. The APT case also proved that the PL itself dragged its feet and obstructed progress. I can't see City being punished severely for non-coperation if the PL have dragged this out for years with no evidence.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

But he still had a shit hairstyle.

All 4 members still alive.
Saw them on tv in a tribute to Roy Wood.
He still has that daft hair.

 

[Ric]

Well then we will be guilty in most people’s eyes

Literally whatever happens here, that will still be the case.

 

[moomba]

He’s hardly going to come out and claim anything other than total innocence publicly, but he’s a pragmatic businessman and will act in the best interests of the club. If that meant taking a relatively small financial hit again on a lesser charge to end this, I personally think we would. A sporting sanction, like a significant points deduction, would obviously be contested.

I'm not sure. Admitting to anything other than non cooperation carries a lot of commercial risk. An appeal isn't going to suddenly turn into a points deduction or relegation so I think we'd go down that path.

 

[pudge]

Nothing new? Shocker

 

[theres only one carlito]

we took a ‘pinch’ last time out, probably expecting it all to be dead and buried. I think in our last statement on the charges we stated that "As such, we look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all." don’t see khaldoon taking it anymore, I think it’s matter of principle now. We aren’t taking anything other than complete exoneration and an end to this whole saga this time around.

 

[deano ou812]

Pretty sure we would.

And if we accept a fine for non cooperation the media will have a field day spinning it as see they are guilty after all..we want cleared entirely as all that leaves them with is we paid them off no guilty charge no nothing..Then please the club bring to task those who have overstepped with slanderous comments and articles..

 

[Ric]

And if we accept a fine for non cooperation the media will have a field day spinning it as see they are guilty after all..we want cleared entirely as all that leaves them with is we paid them off no guilty charge no nothing..Then please the club bring to task those who have overstepped with slanderous comments and articles..

As I said, I think some people have unrealistic expectations.

 

[117 M34]

PSR is self reporting and both of them admitted guilt

Forest.

Ultimately, the Commission accepted only one of Forest’s heads of mitigation: that it had admitted the complaint in full at the first opportunity and cooperated extensively with the Premier League.

The circumstances and scale of Forest’s breach resulted in a further 3-point deduction being awarded. This was subsequently reduced by 2-points for mitigation.

So their points deduction was reduced by 2 points because they did cooperate.
By that measure, their points deduction did include an element of non cooperation

 

[bluwes]

Could be wrong, of course, but given what’s at stake here, I think we would take a fine on some of the lesser charges if that drew a line under the whole matter. I think some people are setting themselves up for disappointment if they’re expecting full, complete exoneration on all charges and no sanctions whatsoever.

Sorry @Ric we ain’t taking anything that could show us guilty of any charge, no matter how minor

 

[Damanino]

original statement:

Manchester City FC is surprised by the issuing of these alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules, particularly given the extensive engagement and vast amount of detailed materials that the EPL has been provided with.
The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position.
As such we look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all.

25 months after this statement its time after countless articles with assuming our guilt, various digs, attack on our fanbase and millions of rival fans calling us cheats it is time to put this to rest once and for all.

 

[Ric]

Sorry @Ric we ain’t taking anything that could show us guilty of any charge, no matter how minor

Maybe you’re right, who knows. Personally doubt it, but we’ll see soon enough hopefully.

 

[Carrl]

Also any decison on whether to sue anyone is a matter for City and would not be connected to any sanction. In any case very few clubs have actually said anything defamatory in public. (I can only think of Klopp). All the comments have been behind close doors briefings. Any legal actions for defamation would be against the publishers (not the person who leaked). That said it wouldn't surprise me if there has been some horse-trading behind the scenes between City and the PL, even in advance of any public decision. Everyone will be jockeying for position in the ensuing comms battle.

Don't believe there is any horsetrading behind the scenes. The relationship between City and PL seems to be completely broken.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Don't believe there is any horsetrading behind the scenes. The relationship between City and PL seems to be completely broken.

The lawyers have to talk to each other one way or another. Perhaps horsetrading is the wrong word. But the aftermath of the case will have to be managed somehow. City are still a member of the PL. The comms and media interaction will have to be managed to prevent a total breakdown. Perhaps the new Regulator may have some sort of mediation role. City have huge commercial value to the PL. Someone will have to get a grip when Masters is booted out.

 

[stephen_p_hughes@hotmail.]

i've started blocking even the most reliable city x accounts that post that kind of engagement farming bullshit.

if they post crap once, then i have to assume them to be untrustworthy. and not worth the time.

i just blocked @SheikhMCI for posting the latest fine and 3 pts rumour.

I don't think there is any doubt we are going to get done on the non cooperation as we didnt cooperate to the rules of the pl and how these things get normally done.

 

[oakiecokie]

All 4 members still alive.
Saw them on tv in a tribute to Roy Wood.
He still has that daft hair.

The last I heard,that Noddy lived around the posh areas of Cheshire (Wilmslow or similar)whilst he did his Sunday gig on our local radio, so not sure if thats still the case ?

 

[oakiecokie]

I don't think there is any doubt we are going to get done on the non cooperation as we didnt cooperate to the rules of the pl and how these things get normally done.

How can you possibly know that ??

 

[halfcenturyup]

Forest.

Ultimately, the Commission accepted only one of Forest’s heads of mitigation: that it had admitted the complaint in full at the first opportunity and cooperated extensively with the Premier League.

The circumstances and scale of Forest’s breach resulted in a further 3-point deduction being awarded. This was subsequently reduced by 2-points for mitigation.

So their points deduction was reduced by 2 points because they did cooperate.
By that measure, their points deduction did include an element of non cooperation

Perceived wisdom is that non-cooperation can only be sanctioned financially, but there is nothing in the rules iirc that prevents it. I happen to agree with the perceived wisdom in this case, but who knows?

May be wrong, I haven't looked for a while.