North Stand Construction Discussion

Gray said:
It was because of the way footballers were playing on the grassy bit that a lot of us found the construction site more rivetting.
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The hotel etc will improve the way we play by bringing in extra revenue which I hope means better players.
The Etihad will never be a pretty ground, but an impressive one nevertheless.
 
KS55 said:
The hotel etc will improve the way we play by bringing in extra revenue which I hope means better players.
The Etihad will never be a pretty ground, but an impressive one nevertheless.
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Room number 115 on the left wing?
 
Re wonky-roof, I've said this before about both, but now that SS has captured it, might as well highlight it in the footage, in case people didn't get what I meant.

The protective net is askew, and that when viewed from the air against a straight purlin behind, creates a depth perception discrepancy. Which exaggerates the wonkyness.

See below, on the bays either side, the net is fairly consistent, but in that very central one, it protrudes forward on the right side. Against the grain of the slight slope. Ironically, if it had been flipped the other way, it would create an optical effect that would 'hide' the apparent wonkyness more.

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Also, I mentioned previously the points of contact for the platform. You can see those two specific beams have the support plates welded onto them (snd as such beefier profiles), while the ones either side don't. Whether intentional or not, having one higher than the other will most likely help them line it up when it comes to placing the platform on top. And that is probably the point at which they will even them out.

Imho.
 
Coatigan said:
Big improvement on the couple of previous attempts. And credit to the planners for pushing the contractors on it.

A bit of a pity they didn't colour match the frame edges, but a much better metallic finish.

The horizontals were always the anomaly here.
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Forgive me coatigan but how do you know the finish is metallic ?? :-)
 
Penders1957 said:
Forgive me coatigan but how do you know the finish is metallic ?? :-)
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I don't specifically, fair point.

But it reflects things a lot more than it did in the previous versions, and I know from the correspondence with planners and their comments on samples, that they asked for a more metalic finish. As well as the protruding rivets being changed to flush screws. So I am putting two and two together.

By finish, could be a coating, doesn't mean it is necessary strictly metal as such. But imo looks better.

I did post this before, but some close-ups of details developed through the process (detail matters mo) below.

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Coatigan said:
Re wonky-roof, I've said this before about both, but now that SS has captured it, might as well highlight it in the footage, in case people didn't get what I meant.

The protective net is askew, and that when viewed from the air against a straight purlin behind, creates a depth perception discrepancy. Which exaggerates the wonkyness.

See below, on the bays either side, the net is fairly consistent, but in that very central one, it protrudes forward on the right side. Against the grain of the slight slope. Ironically, if it had been flipped the other way, it would create an optical effect that would 'hide' the apparent wonkyness more.

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Also, I mentioned previously the points of contact for the platform. You can see those two specific beams have the support plates welded onto them (snd as such beefier profiles), while the ones either side don't. Whether intentional or not, having one higher than the other will most likely help them line it up when it comes to placing the platform on top. And that is probably the point at which they will even them out.

Imho.
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Coming back to my earlier point about precision fabrication, without knowing exactly what the connections are it would be minimum say 2 bolts each Fin plates each end, this would have to line up, probably one end would have slotted holes to account for tolerances but this would be no more than 25mm in each direction, so from a Detailers point of view imo its not Wonky unless we are splitting hairs over 0.23645 degrees,
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simdog said:
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Coming back to my earlier point about precision fabrication, without knowing exactly what the connections are it would be minimum say 2 bolts each Fin plates each end, this would have to line up, probably one end would have slotted holes to account for tolerances but this would be no more than 25mm in each direction, so from a Detailers point of view imo its not Wonky unless we are splitting hairs over 0.23645 degrees,
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It is exponential though, isn't it. They can line up along the x-y axis but still be angled on the z. And over a lenght a minimal angle is noticable at the other end. Which it is here.
 
Coatigan said:
It is exponential though, isn't it. They can line up along the x-y axis but still be angled on the z. And over a lenght a minimal angle is noticable at the other end. Which it is here.
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It’s not exponential- the difference in the height between the two beams is proportionate to the span and the angle remains the same.

It would only be exponential in a theoretical situation where moving the beams further apart increases the difference in height by a greater extent than the previous angle would suggest, and this additional increase in height becomes ever larger the further the two beams move apart.
 
Brewster's millions said:
It’s not exponential- the difference in the height between the two beams is proportionate to the span and the angle remains the same.

It would only be exponential in a theoretical situation where moving the beams further apart increases the difference in height by a greater extent than the previous angle would suggest, and this additional increase in height becomes ever larger the further the two beams move apart.
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We are maybe talking different things, but of course the height difference along an angle is exponential! Literally how geometry works. The angle stays the same, but the height increases as you go along it.

A bit moot though, as it is pretty evident there is a height difference, which is what is making the roof wonky. And it is more than the 25mm tolerance, which at this scale would be imperceptible.
 
HelloCity said:
Feel like this is one of the better images of the new stand in terms of showing off its size.

The pics from lower down don’t quite capture it as well because the new structure isn’t overly steep so from a bit higher up you really get a good feel for it.

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I think it adds proper character to the stadium. Having stands that look different is great, rather than having a bowl
 
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