PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[eastmanc]

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Hope you’re wrong as I’d love to see him do what I know he’s capable of on the international stage

As long as he does it for City.

 

[blueste41]

I find it hard to believe his comment that he has no idea when the result is coming out. There must be some awareness of broad time scales. This is not a criminal trial. There will have been extensive ongoing discussions between both sets of lawyers. There will also be a back channel to the panel, not least as part of the fact checking process. There are just too many commercial interests involved for both sides be out of the loop in terms of timings for a release to the public. I am also certain the Government (and the new Regulator) will get a heads up at some point.

There shouldn't be, the case has been heard and the evidence presented. Nobody from City side or the prem sides should have a channel of communication to the panel. They should be left to consider the evidence as it was on the final day of the hearing, any fact checking should have been completed as part of the process.

 

[blueste41]

The hidden process relating to the 115 charges is totally ridiculous. It is not beyond the whit of man for all parties to agree to the release of an indicative timeline. The KCs must know now when their decision is likely to be available. Even if they have a range. E.g. October/November or similar. I think the PL need to build some more transparency into their processes. The 115 process completely ignores the fans and the public interest in this type of case. Surely some framework timeliness could be shared. Shambolic stuff.

How do you know the KC's know? When Sir Wyn gave his interim report on the horizon inquiry earlier this month he was clear that he has no idea when the full report will be completed. I can't think of an enquiry or arbitration case where timelines have been provided, why is this one different?

 

[cheekybids]

The hidden process relating to the 115 charges is totally ridiculous. It is not beyond the whit of man for all parties to agree to the release of an indicative timeline. The KCs must know now when their decision is likely to be available. Even if they have a range. E.g. October/November or similar. I think the PL need to build some more transparency into their processes. The 115 process completely ignores the fans and the public interest in this type of case. Surely some framework timeliness could be shared. Shambolic stuff.

It wouldn’t be hard to provide an estimate of when they expect a decision to be provided.

 

[Bez]

How do you know the KC's know? When Sir Wyn gave his interim report on the horizon inquiry earlier this month he was clear that he has no idea when the full report will be completed. I can't think of an enquiry or arbitration case where timelines have been provided, why is this one different?

I've no idea about Sir Wyn. Equally I've no idea about the status of City's case. That said, there comes a point in the process when the relevant people involved, as intelligent as they are, and with their level of experience, should be able to look ahead and make helpful projections with caveats. Maybe they are not yet seeing light at the end of the tunnel, but when they do, I don't think it is an impossibility to provide helpful guidance to key stakeholders. To be clear, I am not asking for detailed timescales. The reality is the process communications have been exceptionally poor. I don't think there will be many saying the 115 case comms have been well handled.

 

[Goodlove]

Masters just been on Bloomberg TV.............I'm no expert on body language but his rebuff from questions related to City and 115 was not very impressive.

He looks like he needs a glass of water the nervous, lying, self serving twat.

 

[city2]

He looks like he needs a glass of water the nervous, lying, self serving twat.

With cyanide in it.

 

[smithy extra]

With cyanide in it.

He is certainly not CEO material, poor interview.

 

[manimanc]

You have to ask what was the reason for him doing this interview and why has he chose to do it now?
Is this to start the ball rolling for the news to come out about the 115?

Seems very odd to just do this out of the blue and to not answer any questions about us.

 

[Blumooniac]

Last summer, during the European championship, there was absolutely no coverage of the charges. Nothing. Within days of the final, it started again. The cynic in me predicts the (cleared of everything) verdict will be released the week before the season starts. A nice little curtain raiser for the cartel media to increase their click revenue and for the red shirt mob to wave their pitchforks whilst phoning Talksport. Every bitter and twisted rag/dipper/tarquin pundit will be at it. Full on incandescent gammon stylee. It's in the interest of their business model to continue the failed narrative.

 

[manimanc]

Them last few minutes in that interview made fantastic viewing.
Stuttering.
Dry throat.
Repeating himself.
Looking flummoxed.
Made absolutely no sense whatsoever. This prick didn’t have a clue what to say or how to say it.
If he knew what was going on and knew they'd won he'd be bullish, he'd be confident and it'd roll off his tongue and as the CEO you would expect something from him, some sign that they was confident.

Absolutely none of the above. This posh bellend is toast.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Zeigler’s little head has just resurfaced on SSN.

Can’t be long before this **** gets wind of the outcome surely.

 

[dadnlad]

Zeigler’s little head has just resurfaced on SSN.

Can’t be long before this **** gets wind of the outcome surely.

not exploded yet so no news

 

[Silva61]

The hidden process relating to the 115 charges is totally ridiculous. It is not beyond the whit of man for all parties to agree to the release of an indicative timeline. The KCs must know now when their decision is likely to be available. Even if they have a range. E.g. October/November or similar. I think the PL need to build some more transparency into their processes. The 115 process completely ignores the fans and the public interest in this type of case. Surely some framework timeliness could be shared. Shambolic stuff.

I can't imagine the likes of Mansour, Kahldoon, other senior directors and even Pep would be so patient in waiting for the outcome unless they already know.
My guess is our lawyers have the PL all tied up in knots and their scrambling around looking for a way out, whilst feeling the wrath of the other member clubs who are going to have to foot the bill.

 

[surprisedbygrass]

If this guy mumbles from questions on a TV interview then a top KC from our legal team would surely run rings around him ?

Agree. He either played a shaky straight bat dealing with the 115 question or lapsed into his marketing / corporate script when it was suggested by the bemused American journalist that PSR is outdated . Looks like he is over the pond on a promotion tour , US owners win the trophy , so no surprises there.

 

[coolcity]

Them last few minutes in that interview made fantastic viewing.
Stuttering.
Dry throat.
Repeating himself.
Looking flummoxed.
Made absolutely no sense whatsoever. This prick didn’t have a clue what to say or how to say it.
If he knew what was going on and knew they'd won he'd be bullish, he'd be confident and it'd roll off his tongue and as the CEO you would expect something from him, some sign that they was confident.

Absolutely none of the above. This posh bellend is toast.

Much as I would like to agree, I think we see what we want to see sometimes. He didn't seem any different than when I've seen or heard him at any other time to me.

I still go back to the very beginning, long before any hearing started, when he said something along the lines of he "can't wait to get City in the dock because they'll get what's coming to them" and said something about it being long overdue. Right from that moment onwards it was clear that he had already made his mind up about us, so my concern was if we would ever get a fair hearing.

My opinion now is pretty much summed up by the next comment from Silva61:

"My guess is our lawyers have the PL all tied up in knots and their scrambling around looking for a way out..."

 

[Silva2021]

It would be interesting to know the real process.

Does it get fully wrote up bar the conclusion and the panel re read it all.

Or more likely a decision is decided and then they write it up.

So the panel knows even if no-one else does.

Certainly integrity wise, they have not leaked it to people as either they are solid or we would know.

The writing up is the nightmare scenario as there was so much and people will be looking to discredit it.

Tomorrow?

 

[coolcity]

I can't imagine the likes of Mansour, Kahldoon, other senior directors and even Pep would be so patient in waiting for the outcome unless they already know.
My guess is our lawyers have the PL all tied up in knots and their scrambling around looking for a way out, whilst feeling the wrath of the other member clubs who are going to have to foot the bill.

I think that's EXACTLY what the situation is.

I reckon Masters thought he was top of the tree, king of one of the most powerful sporting organisations in the world until he came up against City's team and I think it's now dawned on him that there are far more powerful people out there and unfortunately for him, some of those people own City. He thought the PL were bigger than City but didn't realise that City Football Group make his organisation look like a Sunday League committee.

 

[Silva2021]

Much as I would like to agree, I think we see what we want to see sometimes. He didn't seem any different than when I've seen or heard him at any other time to me.

I still go back to the very beginning, long before any hearing started, when he said something along the lines of he "can't wait to get City in the dock because they'll get what's coming to them" and said something about it being long overdue. Right from that moment onwards it was clear that he had already made his mind up about us, so my concern was if we would ever get a fair hearing.

My opinion now is pretty much summed up by the next comment from Silva61:

"My guess is our lawyers have the PL all tied up in knots and their scrambling around looking for a way out..."

I don’t like the guy nor feel he deserves such a good job.

He certainly does not know the PL has won, which is good.

Does he know we have won, I didn’t get that feeling as he might have back tracked if so.

I think most likely is that no news or they are in some kind of discussions.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

It makes you laugh that he’s using the excuse of sheer amount of charges as reason for a delay. That should have been enough to show this whole shit show hadn’t been considered beyond charging & leaking.

They are not even real charges. The PL contrived to make the process as difficult as possible for City at every turn all the while giving toxic briefings to the media. They have never before done this with other clubs. The aim has been to damage City’s reputation from day one. Total bad faith.