Will we win the league this season?

Father Paul said:
Both arguments have some merit, particularly Dias I was astounded to hear we are going to buid our defence around him for the next five years. Haaland has to put the ball in the net at least 30 times a league season to justify his place imo. He seems capable of doing this most of the time so it seems wise to play him even if he contributes little to general play. While I think we have made the right decision in backing him I would be far from devastated if we sold him for a very large fee moving forward.
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Dias is out of form and has been for a while but binning him would be a mistake. He is a leader and we don’t have as many of those as we used to.

Haaland does not need to score 30 goals a season to justify his place. He occupies multiple defenders whether he scores or not. When he hasn’t been in the team our results have not improved. He is a generational talent and his contributions in other areas is improving too like the beautiful ball he put on a plate for Marmoush to miss. Is it OK for Marmoush to stay?…you get my point..we can’t buy and discard forever…we only need to look at United to see it’s not the way forward.
 
Charlesfarsbar said:
I think I would consider changing you’re username if I was you

Every post you make comes across as a parody that is trying to reflect your moniker
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Almost every post on this thread is saying exactly the same. Shambolic dealings this summer which has given us no chance of challenging for anything this season.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Dias is out of form and has been for a while but binning him would be a mistake. He is a leader and we don’t have as many of those as we used to.

Haaland does not need to score 30 goals a season to justify his place. He occupies multiple defenders whether he scores or not. When he hasn’t been in the team our results have not improved. He is a generational talent and his contributions in other areas is improving too like the beautiful ball he put on a plate for Marmoush to miss. Is it OK for Marmoush to stay?…you get my point..we can’t buy and discard forever…we only need to look at United to see it’s not the way forward.
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If Haaland doesn’t score he’s offering us next to nothing else. This myth that he is dragging defenders about would be good if there was evidence of all this free space that brings. We need to play to Haalands strengths because a player touching the ball 20 odd times a game and not putting it in the net is a waste of a player. We score less as a team with him playing so yes he does need to be scoring a sack load to justify his position
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Almost every post on this thread is saying exactly the same. Shambolic dealings this summer which has given us no chance of challenging for anything this season.
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I don’t see that. Are you saying this is a good thing or a bad thing? I think our window has been fine and isn’t finished.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Almost every post on this thread is saying exactly the same. Shambolic dealings this summer which has given us no chance of challenging for anything this season.
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If you think almost every post on this thread is saying our transfer dealings this summer have been shambolic then your grip on reality is conspicuously absent and your wider input should be assessed accordingly, as you are clearly incapable of objective thought and have zero critical thinking skills.
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
If Haaland doesn’t score he’s offering us next to nothing else. This myth that he is dragging defenders about would be good if there was evidence of all this free space that brings. We need to play to Haalands strengths because a player touching the ball 20 odd times a game and not putting it in the net is a waste of a player. We score less as a team with him playing so yes he does need to be scoring a sack load to justify his position
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Show me how our results improve when he is absent. All players miss at the same rate (other than Messi) the trick is to get into those positions in the first place. Haaland gets into those positions more than any striker in the World. It is not his fault if we don’t find him. It’s not a myth.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Almost every post on this thread is saying exactly the same. Shambolic dealings this summer which has given us no chance of challenging for anything this season.
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Last summers window was shambolic in hindsight but the past two windows are correcting that

We are transitioning from possibly the greatest team in English football history

That wont be an easy one to pull off but we are going in the right direction

This new team just needs time

Stay within striking distance of the leaders come January then we’ve got a chance
 
Cobwebcat said:
Childish maybe but 100% correct. Anyone that wants to sell Haaland does not understand football. Who are you bringing in to replace him? Is Pep to be sacked for his apparent lack of tactical flexibility? Should our owners hang their heads in shame at our recent defeat?
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I love the way you are the judge and jury of what's right and wrong. Childish and arrogant. Congratulations. I'd counter by saying you don't seem to understand the imbalance in the team caused by his presence demonstrating a wider lack of understanding of football. I woukd sell Haaland for a premium to PSG, Real or Saudi who would be interested in his commercial value. I would have sold him last year instead of alvarez who was far more rounded and needed more minutes. For Haaland we'd get 3 times what we paid. Then re-invest the money in a more rounded premier league proven striker like Isak or 2 more rounded attackers like Lautaro Martinez or Mateta (who is premier league proven) or get one and invest the rest of the money in defence and midfield. I also think Marmoush makes things happen for the team a lot more than haaland so I'd back him. When Marmoush played more at the end of last season we went unbeaten. I certainly wouldn't sack Pep. He's a legend and a fine coach. Our owners are incredible. Only recently has the squad got out of shape but we have to make strong decisions now to get back to having a more balanced squad and that should start with selling Haaland. I could be wrong though and you could be right. Its just a matter of opinion after all.
 
Charlesfarsbar said:
Last summers window was shambolic in hindsight but the past two windows are correcting that

We are transitioning from possibly the greatest team in English football history

That wont be an easy one to pull off but we are going in the right direction

This new team just needs time
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This window nor the last has addressed the major issues

Right back or 2 needed.
Dynamism in midfield
one out of 2 left backs as well that are needed
 
Marvin. said:
How much significance to attach to one game vs Spurs? To what extent was that game skewed by the performance of Trafford? Trafford not only cost us a goal but he damaged the quality of our possession through slow and inaccurate distribution. That is my impression, but I might be wrong. I am biased against Trafford because I remember his performances for Burnley in the Premier League. I think Trafford will go on to be a good keeper but he needs experience.
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Agreed Marv, he didn't have the best of games. His mistakes highlighted his poor showing. There were others though, who were equally as bad.
 
Charlesfarsbar said:
Refer to my second and third lines

Rome wasn’t built in a day or two transfer windows
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But these were absolute key and should have been priority. We have bought other positions that werent as much needed.
Now we are in for a winger we may or may not need as well instead of keeping Sav.

If we finish the window without a right back or 2 then that is a huge failure to address he biggest glaring problem that has been present for over 12 months or more

Oh and even the Roman Empire collapsed completely at one point. Our years of dominance are over becuase we failed to capitalise while we were on top after the treble win...that 4th in row happened by the skin of our teeth
 
Cobwebcat said:
Dias is out of form and has been for a while but binning him would be a mistake. He is a leader and we don’t have as many of those as we used to.

Haaland does not need to score 30 goals a season to justify his place. He occupies multiple defenders whether he scores or not. When he hasn’t been in the team our results have not improved. He is a generational talent and his contributions in other areas is improving too like the beautiful ball he put on a plate for Marmoush to miss. Is it OK for Marmoush to stay?…you get my point..we can’t buy and discard forever…we only need to look at United to see it’s not the way forward.
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I am not really a big fan of Dias but do accept he has leadership qualities but that may not compensate for performance levels. You greatly overestimate Haalands ability to occupy multiple defenders but I accept his current contribution is positive because he scores a lot of goals. I also accept that he was engaged in some good play on Saturday and I gave him a 5 for his performance when most others scored 3 or 4. I did not and would not suggest we discard him but merely mentioned that a very big offer in the future should not be dismissed out of hand.
 
Cobwebcat said:
I don’t see that. Are you saying this is a good thing or a bad thing? I think our window has been fine and isn’t finished.
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Trafford should have been on the bench. Cherki needs time to adapt. We can't call these signings yet. They are adapting. Reijnders doesn't seem to need to adapt. He is brilliant.

I am not sure that City's football operation is functioning as well as its advocates claim. Look at the pathway of Khusanov, Reis and Echverri. It reminds me of snakes and ladders. Where is O'Reilly, the most promising of all our young players?
 
simon23 said:
But these were absolute key and should have been priority. We have bought other positions that werent as much needed.
Now we are in for a winger we may or may not need as well instead of keeping Sav.

If we finish the window without a right back or 2 then that is a huge failure to address he biggest glaring problem that has been present for over 12 months or more
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The right players need to be available and it seems they aren’t or we aren’t willing to spend over the odds to get them

Who do you think we should sign to address the right back issue ?
 
Cobwebcat said:
Show me how our results improve when he is absent. All players miss at the same rate (other than Messi) the trick is to get into those positions in the first place. Haaland gets into those positions more than any striker in the World. It is not his fault if we don’t find him. It’s not a myth.
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Our form turned last year when he was injured. He came back, we drew at Southampton and then lost a cup final he shit it from a penalty. It is a myth because if he is dragging all of these defenders then where is this free space? He’s fairly static up top. Thats why teams find it easy to just sit back against us or haven’t you watched us for a while. We score more as a team without him. Check before he arrived and then our numbers since arriving. He’s scored a truck load personally, as a team we score less which isn’t a problem if we are winning but going back to the original point, he has to have high scoring seasons to justify his spot because he offers little else
 
Marvin. said:
Trafford should have been on the bench. Cherki needs time to adapt. We can't call these signings yet. They are adapting. Reijnders doesn't seem to need to adapt. He is brilliant.

I am not sure that City's football operation is functioning as well as its advocates claim. Look at the pathway of Khusanov, Reis and Echverri. It reminds me of snakes and ladders. Where is O'Reilly, the most promising of all our young players?
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I think its too early to tell with all of them. As good as Reijnders was against the cannon fodder that is Wolves he was equally poor and MIA against Spurs.

I agree on Khusonov - its really od that he isnt getting game time much. Baring his first game he has been decent every time on the pitcy. Nobondy should be above dropping and he deservs to be on the pitch ahead of Dias and even at fullback before either of the other two options.
Reis didnt look ready to me...Echeverri is too young and inexperienced - he wouldnt have played much at all

Is Oreilly better at present than any of the players we have central midfield at present - he could be but he isnt yet - if we were playing well you could argue he gets sub apperances and cup games - but we arent playing well
 
simon23 said:
But these were absolute key and should have been priority. We have bought other positions that werent as much needed.
Now we are in for a winger we may or may not need as well instead of keeping Sav.

If we finish the window without a right back or 2 then that is a huge failure to address he biggest glaring problem that has been present for over 12 months or more

Oh and even the Roman Empire collapsed completely at one point. Our years of dominance are over becuase we failed to capitalise while we were on top after the treble win...that 4th in row happened by the skin of our teeth
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Yes, mistakes have been made but we will be back

Our owner will ensure that
 
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