Hugo Viana | Director of Football

Agree. We don’t have a Ya Ya, Silva, KDB, Sergio, Kompany, at the moment except for Rodri. And that’s the level we need. Hard to find though.

Agree, we have proved that we can do it tho...

My concern is something that another poster wrote - are the club happy to just finish top four now for a period of time

What will tell me is next summers window, when we are cleared of these BS 115 charges - i am hoping the club go big. Just maybe that includes a new manager at the helm i dont know

That depends if Pep wants to and is committed 100%
 
This, bought very poorly in January ( not sure if he had any input) and not addressed RB or the lack of G/A from our wingers. Miles behind Dippers and Arsenal at present.
Watching Liverpool v Arsenal yesterday I could not fail to notice how both sides looked far more physically imposing than our team earlier whilst maintaining a high level of quality.
 
It's not easy when you make no effort to replace them and allow them to age or decline due to injuries without bringing replacements through. We've always been very good in ensuring we continue to improve the scheme. That changed up to and after the treble. Subsequently we've seen what appears to be a desperate attempt to change things but rather than buy the players for Pep to continue our general style of play, we've brought in players that don't look capable of doing it. The possession-dominance we had from so many solid technical players has been lost and we now have a group who look like they can barely pass the ball to one another, run it into trouble time and time again and leave us completely exposed.

We will need time to gel, time we haven't had. And I'm certain we've got a very good squad of players. But the glaring issues we should have resolved simply haven't been.
Agree with everything...Were playing catch up after the error of judgement made after winning the treble
 
I think many overlook the fact that the so called error of judgement may actually have been something forced on us by the overhanging charges. There was a period of time where we seemed to be hamstrung on doing the deals we needed to.
 
Does this mean the Premier League have beaten us by Technical knockout. If they have hamstrung our spending. They have knocked us back a couple of seasons for sure. Is it coincidence that the red clubs are spending now, or is it all pre planned to give them a head start? After the verdict.
 
We've said goodbye to the so called "uncs" (very disrespectful to certain players) and are now saying a big hello to the "incs"...the inconsistents...Doku/Marmoush/Bobb/Savinho/Reijnders...the guys who can't seem to have two good games in a row
Going to be quite a bit more of this until we start signing players who have done it at a higher level.
Feckin' Liverpool, win the league last season and haven't sat back, nope, kicking on big time by bringing in high level players all over the pitch whereas we carry on trying to be the net spend kings again.
Still, plenty to be positive about including the fact should be easier to get tickets for games in the next few seasons.
Have you watched the dippers this season ? They were lucky against Bournemouth and extremely fortunate against Newcastle. Didn't watch them play the tarquins. Yes they won their 2nd title in 35 years so lets not put them on the pedestal the media have put them on.
I get what you mean about not spending on top top players, but maybe these fuckin charges have played their part in that.
We could have also spent a fortune to buy Wertz and he looks shite for the dippers.
 
Liverpool buying Guehi and Isak, as well as Wirtz earlier in the summer, shows how far we’ve fallen in such a short time recruitment wise.

Not because we should have bought those particular players, but because there was a time when we’d routinely acquire quality players at top PL or European clubs, and whose clubs presumably wanted to keep them, and whose acquisitions were the subject of envy across our competitors.

There’s a myth that our success has been based on acquiring players based on good financial deals, grounded in a certain acumen for talent/deals and a willingness to step away if the price is too high. As I say, I think that’s a myth. We’re not a moneyball club. Yes, we’ve had some great deals over the years (like Akanji), and yes it was out of the ordinary for us to spend £100m on Grealish. But that doesn’t mean we’re shrewd moneyball analysts.

The spine of our most successful years was built by going after ready-made, talented, statement like signings. The money paid might not have been huge in today’s terms, but:

David Silva, Aguero, Walker, Mahrez, Sane, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Fernandinho, Cancelo, Laporte, Stones, Dias - were not cheap acquisitions of prospective developmental talent. They were mostly ready to go, statement-like signings identified to fill certain gaps in the team. A few of them were well-known talent courted across Europe (Aguero, Silva, Sane, De Bruyne). A few were direct acquisitions from Premier League clubs who wanted to keep them (Stones, Walker, Mahrez). Others may have been less well known to Premier League fans, but were the leaders of established European sides (Fernandinho, Dias, Laporte).

On top of that, we acquired Grealish and Haaland. These were very much statement signings, showing we are top of the world in terms of buying-strength, ambition and pull. This was a signal, shortly before winning the UCL, of our ambition.

Going back as far as Hughes and Mancini, we obviously acquired competitively (even if we were not as successful on the pitch), by getting Tevez and Adebayor from direct Premier League rivals. We also bought top talent like Yaya from Barcelona.

In recent times, the approach seems to have changed. Now we seem to be making ‘smart’ transfers. Sometimes not simply to play, but to hold and then sell on for more money. I can only think the whole approach is changing because the club is favouring sustainability under the upcoming PSRs. And it’s true the landscape in football has changed where clubs need to favour sustainable, talent identification. We’ve certainly got a lot of this right. But I think we’ve lost something in the process. There are too many ‘bets’ on the pitch.

I’m sure a some of the young players on the pitch for us will develop into great players, but they wouldn’t have been starters for us in our better years. Frankly, they might have struggled to make the bench. When you consider a few years ago we were acquiring quality Centre Backs and Full Backs in numbers for fun, and were spoilt for choice ofwho to start, we now start Khusanov (a Nastasic/Savic style acquisition, who I’m sure has a higher ceiling), and Nunes (who isn’t even a right back). We’re blooding youth players (eg Rico), which is great, but it’s all a bit Brighton like. It’s not the strategy of a club that stays at the top ruthlessly, but a club that wants to stay in or around the top sustainably.

Meanwhile, Liverpool have won the league (not even consecutively) and are buying all the best players like we used to in our prime.
 
Does this mean the Premier League have beaten us by Technical knockout. If they have hamstrung our spending. They have knocked us back a couple of seasons for sure. Is it coincidence that the red clubs are spending now, or is it all pre planned to give them a head start? After the verdict.

A number of posters will definitely agree with your thoughts on the PL's intentions behind the 115 shite.

The truth of the matter is speculative but highly likely imo. A costly exercise in defending ourselves and tying up some of our investment with rules to at least slow if not ultimately destroy the club as a competitor.

And the sudden rush of spending from the prime cartel members does suggest a "heads up" from the PL in favour of their cabal of US owners.

The PL hierarchy working in tandem with US owned clubs are one fucking big blight on the PL for City and other less favoured clubs.
 
At this point we're just doing what Chelsea are doing.
Are we? Chelsea are buying players to improve and fill their squad as well as flipping the younger players for profit. As it stands they’ve got at least two players per position. We’re struggling to get a RB and a good midfielder
 
I mused similar in the Donnarumma thread but only about him specifically. Enrique is almost certainly after the same profile of keeper as Pep, and is getting rid of him for someone who's a better fit. Why would that put us in pole position to sign him? Doesn't make any sense. Did we really waste so much time going after Costa to no avail? We then sign Trafford for...? Really hope this keeper situation is a transitional error and not a sign of things to come.

Will also add that I think missing out on Wirtz is going to haunt us for pretty much the peak of his career. He's going to be as important for the dippers as KDB was for us. He was *the* continuity signing we couldn't afford to fumble, having notice years in advance, his rise coinciding perfectly with KDBs decline, and we fucked it. Flies in the face of everything we've been told (and demonstrated) since the takeover of smooth forward planning.
Wirtz hasn’t been a smashing success so far. If not that pool had better players to step up when it matters him not playing well would’ve been highlighted by the media already
 
Agree, we have proved that we can do it tho...

My concern is something that another poster wrote - are the club happy to just finish top four now for a period of time

What will tell me is next summers window, when we are cleared of these BS 115 charges - i am hoping the club go big. Just maybe that includes a new manager at the helm i dont know

That depends if Pep wants to and is committed 100%
I actually think that there is a distinct lack of talent in the world game right now.

There used to be so many great players knocking about but nowadays I honestly think I would struggle to create a world 11.

Just think of strikers - name 10 top tier strikers. I can name about 4.
Continue that thought through a team and you realise that there's just a serious lack of talent.
 
Come on Hugo, pull a right back out of the hat, that no one is expecting. There’s still four hours left you daft ****.
 

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