PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

levets said:
Should be taken from the ‘heel’ of the trailing foot. This stops having somebody with size 12s being offside, but somebody with size 7s being onside.
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It’s a thought but think I’d prefer any part of the boot. Otherwise direction of travel would affect decisions.
a striker facing goal might have an advantageous over a defender facing away from goal.
 
Lord Blue said:
It’s a thought but think I’d prefer any part of the boot. Otherwise direction of travel would affect decisions.
a striker facing goal might have an advantageous over a defender facing away from goal.
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I think Wenger’s initial suggestion only referenced the heel of the attacker
 
halfcenturyup said:
Or maybe @slbsn has followed @Prestwich_Blue by making a prediction based on something they heard from someone they trusted. Just a thought.

Very un-lawyer like behaviour to just make a prediction based on nothing at all, imho.
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Not sure how similar they are - surely we all accept now that the decision hasn't been known for months by the parties.

Either way, it is only a view (based on bits and pieces but only a view). I KNOW that the lawyers became clear nothing was coming in August so presumably that came from an update from the Panel. Whether the Panel gave any more detail or said "not before September" or "not before October" or some other formulation of the type judges give, I don't know. But obviously both parties anticipate it is now close - whether that transpires to be true, I don't know. We also know APT 2 is starting and that has some overlap of resource so I can well imagine the parties have requested that they are not distracted by 2 matters whilst the hearing on APT2 is live.

As I said in the tweet, we are moving into zone where I would be surprised if we didn't hear. For a private matter, the Panel have had long enough even for something as vast as this.
 
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Chappie said:
He will be back on the 30th claiming it will be October.
He's guessing, like the rest of us.
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Hi Chappie, thanks for message. I haven't claimed it will be in September definitively.

What is your guess and have you had any discussions/contact with anyone involved directly or indirectly? On either side? And any experience whatsoever of similar matters?

Not asking for names but it should guide if your guess is of the same weight as the rest of us.
 
slbsn said:
Not sure how similar they are - surely we all accept now that the decision hasn't been known for months by the parties.

Either way, it is only a view (based on bits and pieces but only a view). I KNOW that the lawyers became clear nothing was coming in August so presumably that came from an update from the Panel. Whether the Panel gave any more detail or said "not before September" or "not before October" or some other formulation of the type judges give, I don't know. But obviously both parties anticipate it is now close - whether that transpires to be true, I don't know. We also know APT 2 is starting and that has some overlap of resource so I can well imagine the parties have requested that they are not distracted by 2 matters whilst the hearing on APT2 is live.

As I said, in the tweet, we are moving into zone where I would be surprised if we didn't hear. For a private matter, the Panel have had long enough even for something as vast as this.
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This is what is scaring the Sh!t out of me, I just cannot see anything good coming our way out of this, despite one part of me trying to balance the ground investment, players joining etc, our owners standing amongst world leaders, the longer it drags on………..
 
Ray bloody Purchase said:
This is what is scaring the Sh!t out of me, I just cannot see anything good coming our way out of this, despite one part of me trying to balance the ground investment, players joining etc, our owners standing amongst world leaders, the longer it drags on………..
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.......................meanwhile, back at the ranch..
 
Club will find out this week and us next week IMO.

Let's be real, there's no way it would take this long if we're not going to be found guilty.

Dust off the A-Z and get ready for trips to Colchester and Wycombe.

There's never a dull moment at least.
 
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Just feeling won't be tomorrow as media still to busy dragging themselves around the studios over Liverpool’s spending they won't want that bubble burst just yet
 
jaiguruKun said:
Club will find out this week and us next week IMO.

Let's be real, there's no way it would take this long if we're not going to be found guilty.

Dust off the A-Z and get ready for trips to Colchester and Wycombe.

There's never a dull moment at least.
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Guilty or innocent, the decision for each of the 130 charges has to be explained in detail. The panel will be well aware of the need for accuracy that leaves no doubt. They will translate into legalese their real feeling of “Where the fuck’s your evidence for this?”
 
Looking forward for this to be over and done with.
It will be what it will be, I will still be a City fan.
I believe we will be found innocent of all substantive charges.
I hope that the ramifications for the league, and for those chairman who pushed it, will be felt very deeply indeed.
 
slbsn said:
Not sure how similar they are - surely we all accept now that the decision hasn't been known for months by the parties.

Either way, it is only a view (based on bits and pieces but only a view). I KNOW that the lawyers became clear nothing was coming in August so presumably that came from an update from the Panel. Whether the Panel gave any more detail or said "not before September" or "not before October" or some other formulation of the type judges give, I don't know. But obviously both parties anticipate it is now close - whether that transpires to be true, I don't know. We also know APT 2 is starting and that has some overlap of resource so I can well imagine the parties have requested that they are not distracted by 2 matters whilst the hearing on APT2 is live.

As I said in the tweet, we are moving into zone where I would be surprised if we didn't hear. For a private matter, the Panel have had long enough even for something as vast as this.
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Would your surprise turn into concern if still no verdict going into October onwards?
 
Stoned Rose said:
Could someone assist please- these charges are considered by a 3 person panel- so for each charge to be “proved” do all 3 have to agree “proved”? Or at least 2 out of the 3 have to agree for each charge to be “proved”? Or what?

@slbsn
@Prestwich_Blue
@gordondaviesmoustache
@halfcenturyup

Ta
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A majority will suffice on each charge (hence the odd number on the panel) but is unlikely to be heralded in those terms in the determination, which is likely to be expressed as a single voice.

Dissenting judgments are common in the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court, but tribunals such as this tend to present the decision as a collective one, even if they’ve been split in arriving at the majority decision.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
A majority will suffice on each charge (hence the odd number on the panel) but is unlikely to be heralded in those terms in the determination, which is likely to be expressed as a single voice.

Dissenting judgments are common in the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court, but tribunals such as this tend to present the decision as a collective one, even if they’ve been split in arriving at the majority decision.
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Correct
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