Paqueta Charged By The FA.

Stoned Rose said:
Stefan saying unlikely either us or Paqueta could sue, on the charges thread.
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Yeah, it's completely unfair on the lad, but you also can't have a system where they are not allowed to investigate someone over allegations because it might cost them a move. You'd have to prove some sort of malicious intent or deliberate falsification, I would have thought.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Yeah, it's completely unfair on the lad, but you also can't have a system where they are not allowed to investigate someone over allegations because it might cost them a move. You'd have to prove some sort of malicious intent or deliberate falsification, I would have thought.
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There is a difference between investigating and charging.
 
Apparently West Ham were getting Cole Palmer in the deal for Paqueta!

Watched SSN paper review and the journos were well informed on the 370 odd pages.

Said the £85m from us would have had a massive impact on their PSR too.

The FA are gonna need go lawyers for this one!!!!!
 
Someone needs to stand up the the fa and pl.
It's clear that the American cartel are working under different more lenient rules then non American cartel clubs.
I'm sure there are rumours of players taking bets or fixing games, Onana anyone ?.
Refs, VAR ?
Refs, var, Onana, var, pl, fa, media/press all under the American cartel.

Football authorities stink.

Bernie banned and had to go on a course for saying what's his name looked like a cartoon character. Yet rag player posts pictures of a gorilla to his black keeper, nothing to see here .
Spot the difference
Bernie non American cartel club
Garnacho American cartel club
 
Coatigan said:
Yea, be fucking ironic that the first one they actually win ends up against us!
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well technically they won against everton and forest if you call that a win but anytime they have charged someone with something contentious they have looked like fools.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Stefan saying unlikely either us or Paqueta could sue, on the charges thread.
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I’m no expert.
But don’t you have to demonstrate you’ve suffered a financial loss to sue?
Pacqueta could demonstrate loss of earnings surely if he’s agreed a contract in principle with city.

But I’m not sure how city could demonstrate a loss.

Moreover, do we think Pacqueta has been targeted because he was going to join us?
 
Hmmm let’s say the FA or premier league knew about this possible betting ( spot fixing allegations) but were sitting on their hands and didn’t get totally involved until City approached West Ham about a deal for Paqueta..Of course all speculation but,I’m not totally ruling it out as we know the shenanigans they are and have been getting up to previously regarding other clubs..
 
I heard one of the reporters saying that Palmer was going to West Ham when Paqueta was to come to us.
 
Are the charges brought by the FA considered "legal"?
If so Srefan may well be right. It would be extremely difficult and require extenuating circumstances.






Defamation Cases:
Defamation law addresses false statements that harm a person's reputation, but a false legal charge itself isn't automatically defamation. To prove defamation, a statement must be false, published to a third party, made with at least negligence, and cause serious harm to reputation. However, a false charge could lead to a defamation claim if it meets these elements, particularly if the statement was untrue and publicly known, as the truth of the statement is a key defense for the person accused of defamation
 
deano ou812 said:
Hmmm let’s say the FA or premier league knew about this possible betting ( spot fixing allegations) but were sitting on their hands and didn’t get totally involved until City approached West Ham about a deal for Paqueta..Of course all speculation but,I’m not totally ruling it out as we know the shenanigans they are and have been getting up to previously regarding other clubs..
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I 100% think this and if we went ahead with the purchase I reckon they would have suspended him from playing till the outcome came out!
 
This case is another example of a case that should be investigated by the police rather than the FA/PL. If the police aren't interested in criminal proceedings (usually due to a lack of evidence) then why do the FA/PL contemplate charging them in the first place. It's asking for a load of legal trouble and expenses
 
Whilst I appreciate it is hard for city to sue over the 115 when we win - I mean, how do we show we lost out when we wiped the floor with the competition in most seasons reviewed - and our case would have to be more around reputational damage unless we can show so and so pulled out of a deal completely because of the allegations, for West Ham and Paqueta personally I think it is clearly and demonstrably something that has disadvantaged their finances / career, - it has lost them money, reduced their opportunities to compete and to succeed. And there was no wrongdoing. Well not on the player or west ham's side, at least. Whereas I think we can argue that the process of investigation and charging him is clearly flawed.

I think, and hope, the outcome of this at the very least is to have a much clearer set of requirements to enable investigation and charges to be brought, whilst also ensuring some right to protection rather than this current system of name and shame, leaking information and , I suspect at least from our case, allowing personal bias and conflicts of interest to tread onto the field of play.

Independent regulator could be useful in such circumstances, if they were tasked with at least ensuring protocol and the bar to act was being actively enforced and followed.
 
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So information now coming to light regarding the FA/PL and their application of charges involving non-US owned clubs, could perhaps suggest a US owner cabal driven attack against competitors ?

Now that would surely be paranoid unless Donald starts to mention them as MAGA members !
 
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