GaudinoMotors
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Yep and a little Treble. But hey he was inconsequential ;-)Is this how entitled we've become as a fanbase?
"He ONLY helped us win ONE title"
Yep and a little Treble. But hey he was inconsequential ;-)Is this how entitled we've become as a fanbase?
"He ONLY helped us win ONE title"
You’re still wrong likeAh, you must have thought I was comparing and not talking about how City fans feel about him on a professional level.
Bless. If I had said "Danny Mills", would you have gotten the point (The one you completely missed?)
I’m very much Team Jack but he’s not a City legend imo. He played an integral part in at least two of the three titles he won and contributed significantly to a number of cup wins but in the final reckoning he probably didn’t stay long enough to have legendary status conferred upon himHighly unlikely but some distance from impossible.
Shame how it ended, but no question he’s a City legend. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise. He’s won the same number of trophies with the club as Colin Bell, Bert Trautmann and Frank Swift combined.
How does that not make him a City legend?
I don't think he has the self drive to reach the level that he would need to be. He had one standout season for us, and even then he wasn't even touching the level of some of the players on the pitch. I think over discipline in a Pep team eventually got to him. I may get shot down for this but I feel that his likeability has resulted in tinted specs with Jack.Grealish joined Everton on loan this Summer and was voted the best Premier League player in August. He has 4 assists to his name. Everton drew 0-0 vs Villa yesterday but the MOTD highlights showed that he was very effective and created some big chances for Everton.
He seems to me to be playing in exactly the same role at Everton as he played at City but he is playing much better. Why is this? I can think of some reasons:
1) He knows this is a final chance and the move is a mental reset for him. He's trying harder.
2) He is enjoying positive comment from media and fans. Football journalists will speak of Grealish at Everton a lot more positively than they did when he was at City.
3) He is playing regularly for the first time in a while
4) The tactics of the opposing sides he's faced for Everton might be more progressive than what we would typically experience playing for City. I think this is true but unlikely to explain his pick-up in form.
5) It might be a blip.
6) Moyes has managed him better than Pep. Seems unlikely.
7) Everton games are not the Cup Finals that City face every week.
I don't think City can recall Grealish in Jan. but it will depend on the loan agreement.
Would you want Jack back? I would based on his current form. His record: goals and assists will be important but I think Jack is also one of those players who make teams and his team mates play better. His passes are usually perfectly weighted. I think a lot of City fans wrote Jack off and already he's proved this viewpoint wrong. I wondered if he still had it in him to be a top player. We need to see more, but it looks good so far. I can see him back in a City shirt again.
You think a City Treble winner isn’t a legend?I’m very much Team Jack but he’s not a City legend imo. He played an integral part in at least two of the three titles he won and contributed significantly to a number of cup wins but in the final reckoning he probably didn’t stay long enough to have legendary status conferred upon him
Is Akanji a legend or Ake or Gvardiol ?You think a City Treble winner isn’t a legend?
I’d say Coventry’s 1987 FA Cup win and City’s Treble are analogous.Is Akanji a legend or Ake or Gvardiol ?
Yes it was a historic treble and yes our first CL but i think as a club we've won enough and been dominant enough that we don't automatically call players who've featured in a remarkable season legends in the manner that say Coventry's cup winning team of 87 will all be Coventry legends
A key difference is perhaps that there are only a finite number of players who can reasonably be considered to be club legends at any club and so, with all due respect to Coventry's history, they had a lot more space in their hall of legends in 87 than we did in 23.I’d say Coventry’s 1987 FA Cup win and City’s Treble are analogous.
No, .my opinion is different to yours, is what you mean to say.You’re still wrong like
Stefan Ortega city legendYou think a City Treble winner isn’t a legend?
His contract runs till June 2027 so he still has 2 more seasons left. If he does well at Everton they'll just give him another season loan. That's if another club don't come I with a decent offer to buy him. I very much we'll get anywhere near 50m. We'll be lucky if any club offers 20m.Knowing Everton they'll low ball us and offer £30m cos he's over 30 and on the last year of his contract, even though he'll have been their player of the season and likely make it back into the England squad. £50m or fuck off!
after this seasons finishes and his loan with Everton is up there'll only be 1 year left, we will be selling him in summer 2026His contract runs till June 2027 so he still has 2 more seasons left. If he does well at Everton they'll just give him another season loan. That's if another club don't come I with a decent offer to buy him. I very much we'll get anywhere near 50m. We'll be lucky if any club offers 20m.