Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Get a ceasefire then get that **** ousted from leading Israels government and then charge him. Then hopefully someone with sense tries to find a better way forward before they inevitably get assassinated by far right zionists.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
So, do we have a ceasefire?
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If two of the worst genocidal tyrants ever to have walked the earth in blair and netanyahu are running the show I think its safe to assume that the 'peace plan' will be anything but

netanyahu said at the press conference that this "can be done the easy way or the hard way". The "hard way" presumably involves killing everyone. It shouldn't have to be explained by now that doing so isn't acceptable.

netanyahu also says that if hamas "supposedly" accept the agreement they could do everything to counter it. This is quite something and yet another example of an israeli accusation actually being a confession considering they have a long history of doing exactly this even earlier this year murdering over 100 Palestinians during the 'ceasefire' before ultimately breaking it by murdering hundreds of women and children on march 18th.

 
Don Karleone said:
No. It's a proposal that would see the Palestinians give up any hope of autonomy, and gives the green light for that **** Netanyahu to carry on his genocide.
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From what I’ve just heard, unless there’s some hidden detail, it seems to be good for Palestine. Israel out of Gaza, same as Hamas. The ME states providing security and rebuilding. UN to manage the aid.

With many of the ME actors buying into this, I feel confident that something can be done. Not perfect but if this is a start of peace for all those affected, it is a positive move. Where the issue lies is with Hamas, who should be nowhere near any negotiations and kicked out of Qatar if they don’t agree.

On a final note, hopefully there’s no deal that protects the Netanyahu government and IDF from prosecution. They need to be made accountable.
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
The Young Turks are live on this now if anyone wants some decent insight into it

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They break down the peace plan for us and Trump and Blair on the board of governors and one of the plans is Gaza will be redeveloped.

It’s not going to happen is it ? Netanyahu is going to carry on killing until he takes all of Gaza.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
From what I’ve just heard, unless there’s some hidden detail, it seems to be good for Palestine. Israel out of Gaza, same as Hamas. The ME states providing security and rebuilding. UN to manage the aid.

With many of the ME actors buying into this, I feel confident that something can be done. Not perfect but if this is a start of peace for all those affected, it is a positive move. Where the issue lies is with Hamas, who should be nowhere near any negotiations and kicked out of Qatar if they don’t agree.

On a final note, hopefully there’s no deal that protects the Netanyahu government and IDF from prosecution. They need to be made accountable.
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It isn't going to happen. The only thing keeping Netanyahu in power is the genocide. It's all for show.
 


Talking of peace while continuing the bombing of homes forcing the people south and out of the city

The IDF shot and murdered another Doctor today, inside the main hospital at point blank range,
 
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The Future’s Blue! said:
From what I’ve just heard, unless there’s some hidden detail, it seems to be good for Palestine. Israel out of Gaza, same as Hamas. The ME states providing security and rebuilding. UN to manage the aid.

With many of the ME actors buying into this, I feel confident that something can be done. Not perfect but if this is a start of peace for all those affected, it is a positive move. Where the issue lies is with Hamas, who should be nowhere near any negotiations and kicked out of Qatar if they don’t agree.

On a final note, hopefully there’s no deal that protects the Netanyahu government and IDF from prosecution. They need to be made accountable.
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But there lies the problem. Hamas forced to leave. Israel allowed to stay.
With Hamas gone you would expect Palestinian politicians running their own country. Nope, Tony War Criminal Blair will be.
That is not a peace deal that offers anything other than Palestinian subjugation.
Trump will have his beach resort the Palestinians nothing.

The Israeli war criminals will walk away from commiting genocide scot free
 
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This looks to me to be a setup.

The middle eastern leaders like Erdoghan, Qatar etc who think Netanyahu is going to allow a two state solution are naive at best or complicit in the setup.

The world is all saying Hamas need to turn in their weapons etc but at least they are recognising a 2 state solution based on the 67 borders.
Noone in the Israeli government is talking in these terms.
 
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I'm confused.
What is the difference between Israeli war criminals, especially Netanyahu and Radovan Karadzic, Ratko Mladic and Slobodan Milosevic.
I don't remember those 3 instigating a peace plan, fully endorsed by America. I'm sure they are all, rightly, in jail.

It shows who is running the world and for me it is very worrying.
 
Blue Mist said:
I'm confused.
What is the difference between Israeli war criminals, especially Netanyahu and Radovan Karadzic, Ratko Mladic and Slobodan Milosevic.
I don't remember those 3 instigating a peace plan, fully endorsed by America. I'm sure they are all, rightly, in jail.

It shows who is running the world and for me it is very worrying.
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The Balkan war criminals didn't have millionaire lobbyists implanted in a Western superpower, supporting their genocide.

Netanyahu will probably be on his deathbed before even a whisper of justice is dealt. I only hope he suffers agonisingly when that time comes.
 
robbieh said:
This looks to me to be a setup.

The middle eastern leaders like Erdoghan, Qatar etc who think Netanyahu is going to allow a two state solution are naive at best or complicit in the setup.

The world is all saying Hamas need to turn in their weapons etc but at least they are recognising a 2 state solution based on the 67 borders.
Noone in the Israeli government is talking in these terms.
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Netanyahu already giving the game away in Hebrew to his own people (he often lies to us in English for propaganda then tells the truth to zionists in hebrew). When asked about the possibility of a Palestinian state he says "Absolutely not. It's also not written in the agreement, but one thing we did say - that we would strongly oppose a palestinian state":



Israeli ministers are already hoping/telling us that this is a set up and are praising Netanyahu for conning the world again:

"Economy Minister Nir Barkat hailed Netanyahu’s “political genius.”

“The political genius of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has once again proven itself — Netanyahu succeeded in convincing President Trump and the Arab states of the justice of Israel’s path,” he declared on X.

“I trust Prime Minister Netanyahu that a Palestinian state will never be established,” he said, thanking Trump as a “true friend.”


Looks like as usual this will be used as a distraction so israelis can mass murder more people. Expect western media to cover for them and put it all on hamas when its pretty obvious from the start that this is another stitch up

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The time of israel articel says that "Hamas has yet to respond to the deal, but has reportedly received it from mediators Egypt and Qatar and vowed to examine it “responsibly.”"
 
Blue Mist said:
Tony Blair - War Criminal.
136 servicemen and women lost their lives in Iraq and 3,500 were wounded because B Liar was a puppet for American aggression.
Not one shred of evidence was ever found to show Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.
Tony Blair, the perfect man to front Israels (backed by America) continued destruction of Palestine
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A bit unfair on Blair that. Don't you remember just prior to the 2003 invasion an Iraqi schoolteacher was arrested at Heathrow airport? On his person he was found to have - amongst other things - a set square, compass, and a protractor. This proved beyond all doubt that Iraq did indeed possess weapons of maths instruction.....
 
So basically the idea is for Palestinians to submit to a different colonial master in the form of Viceroy Blair and a committee of real estate ghouls or the genocide continues.

Worth noting that the PA, who have capitulating for the best part of 30 years, have been frozen out of this 'plan' until they capitulate some more.

Every word of this.


 
Postman Pep said:
So basically the idea is for Palestinians to submit to a different colonial master in the form of Viceroy Blair and a committee of real estate ghouls or the genocide continues.

Worth noting that the PA, who have capitulating for the best part of 30 years, have been frozen out of this 'plan' until they capitulate some more.

Every word of this.


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The interviewer sounded like John Pilger.
 
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