The Salford lad.
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He’s still a racist intolerant bigot , no matter how you spin it .
Villa v Maccabi Tel Aviv - away fans banned | MTA confirm they will refuse any allocation for safety reasons (p26)
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Blue Til Death
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Indeed and we all know who’s fault that was ….
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Spot on mate.
GXCity
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I understand both sides here, but what if they were playing in Manchester next week instead of Birmingham? I’d be appalled if they banned them after the atrocity in Prestwich, and I’d want the our police to ensure they could attend and would want our city to stand up together against any attacks or protests.
For those saying that sections of their fans sing ‘death to the Arabs’, we have seen people arrested at pro Palestinian marches for the same chants against Jews. Surely their fans get held at a meeting point, bused in to the ground and anyone heard singing such songs are arrested and banned from the game. We see that approach for Burnley/Blackburn for example and from what I see it works.
For those saying that sections of their fans sing ‘death to the Arabs’, we have seen people arrested at pro Palestinian marches for the same chants against Jews. Surely their fans get held at a meeting point, bused in to the ground and anyone heard singing such songs are arrested and banned from the game. We see that approach for Burnley/Blackburn for example and from what I see it works.
The Salford lad.
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We have so called pop stars , that chant death to the Idf ,
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They had gigs cancelled because of that, with the full support of every racist in this country. AFAIK, they didn't take weapons to gigs and assault the locals.
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When I heard of a murderous gang of footy hooligans getting banned I got my hopes up, but it wasn’t Tel Aviv I was thinking of.
If you believe the cases are equitable, then quite simply, two wrongs don't make a right.
Your argument holds no water.
if you don't believe the two cases are equitable, then we must examine the differences:
The crucial differences are Bob Vylan are English (therefore didn't require passports to Glastonbury,
showed no prior indication that they were going to chant that chant,
are entitled to free speech (however unhelpful/reprehensible) in their own country (particularly, I would argue about an army that is at the very least commiting war crimes in live television) ,
and have zero track record of violence or (in spite of their chanting) effectively inciting violence.
Similarly, Kneecap (who did not chant Death to the IDF, but did chant Free Palestine), through no fault or desire of their own, are classed as British citizens (being born in what even the UK government concedes is a nebulous, if not, disputed territory) - and one member of the band has been tried in British court. The charges didn't stick.
Macabbi fans do (mostly) need to be admitted into Britain.
They will in all likelihood chant anti-Islamic chants - and chants supporting an army which, at the very least, has been committing war crimes on live telly.
Their reputation for violence is deserved, proven and and well earned.
In my opinion, in no way, are you comparing like with like here. This is a safety issue. The authorities in Birmingham have made the call based on decades of experience. They should be supported.
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One minute I've got musicians and footballers lecturing me about diversity and tolerance of all cultures
Next we're banning a coachload of tossers because they might act like tossers.
Funny because they didn't seem too bothered when Legia Warsaw were due to arrive in the West Midlands two seasons ago and look how well that turned out.
Next we're banning a coachload of tossers because they might act like tossers.
Funny because they didn't seem too bothered when Legia Warsaw were due to arrive in the West Midlands two seasons ago and look how well that turned out.
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You can't say a bad word about Israel or anything without having both polticial sides meltdown. Im honestly sick of it. Racist thugs who are known to act as savages were banned, if this were French/German fans no one would care but apparently every bad word towards Israel is considered racism.
The Fat el Hombre
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LOL, andrew fox. Another israeli propagandist spreading bullshit for low IQ gullible morons. This guy:
He's also encouraged the murder of journalists - Tweet
Hasn't stopped our media from platforming him, mind - Sky news GBeebies
Anyway back to the racist maccabi hooligans, quick deep dive on them and their fans:
1 - they took mossad agents with them Jerusalem post (this is like us bringing the MI6 on a euro away.) and went round attacking people. Lowkey interviewed a well known local witness who said that maccabi hooligans were "just tearing up the streets, attacking people, throwing stuff, kicking people off their bikes". He says there were over 300 of them and some were wearing idf shirts. Youtube.
Even the mail reported on this one - "Israeli football hooligans tear down Palestine flags in Amsterdam as taxi drivers 'fight back' in night of chaos ahead of Maccabi Tel Aviv's visit to Ajax" Mail
2 - nice maccabi sing song round town of "Death to the arabs" Video
3 - disrespected the victims of the Valencia flood which tragically took the lives of over 2 hundred people Video
4 - Maccabi fans were 'traumatised' apparently, but that didn't stop them singing their lovely little ditty:
"Ole ole, ole ole ole, Let the IDF win & fuck the Arabs, Ole ole, ole ole ole, Why is school out in Gaza? There are no children left there!”" Video
Note that cctv of local women being attacked and spat on by maccabi hooligans was erased - Dutch News Al Jazeera
Bit of extra context on maccabi - Their CFO was sacked earlier this year for saying "Anyone who travels to Africa should not be surprised to find monkeys around him" Twitter. At least they sacked him I suppose...
As a proud british patriot I am very relieved that these racist maccabi hooligans won't be invading our shores. Hopefully Birmingham council and police stand up to the israel lobby and stick by the decision to ban these scumbags
Fucking hell. If the president of an official City supporters club was calling for the murder of journalists I'd like to think the club would have stepped in. That's grim.
Errm yeah there is a big difference between shouting death to Jews and death to the IDF mate. And bob vylan a pop star? Think you may not have heard their music haha
Our government literally adopted a definition of anti semitism that includes any criticism of Israel as anti Semitic in 2018
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IDF are Terriost Hamas are Terriost. Ordinary Jews and Arabs aren't.
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He's a fucking sucmbag. Par for the course, really; that our resident Zionist is on here using this lowlife to defend the Maccabi fans is also par for the course.
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Kier, so called Tommy, Kemi, Jendrick Farage are all on the same side.
I expected a a boring neliberal but Kid Starver set the bar too low that he couldn't even manage to be that.
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A great find KB .... which begs the question what else needs questioning about official MSM narratives?
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I think you do have to question West Midlands police. What happens if in the next international tournament Isreal are drawn to play at villa park?