The Labour Government

[mosssideblue]

Oh come on, she did a bloody press conference and they've been flying kites in the media for months - it's naive to suggest that hasn't come from the Treasury

Did she say categorically she was increasing income tax in the press conference?

 

[hilts]

The correct choice not going back on a clear promise made. Also it (hopefully) will focus attention on other streams and/or an attempt to look at the taxation system as a whole. Labour has a great opportunity (given its massive majority and at least 3.5 years left) to deliver some real change

If they were going to do anything radical they would have started work on it by now tbf, From the outside it looks like whack a mole on unpopular choices, they are wasting time and energy waiting for a popular choice to pop up.
Unfortunately there isn't one, if they keep at this they will collapse from exhaustion or have the hammer taken off them.

 

[mosssideblue]

If they are then the Government are certainly helping it.

It’s been obvious for many years that the British media (esp BBC) would rather discuss conflict between parties and inflame division amongst the populace rather than promote any improvement made by the incumbent.

Just look how much airtime the frog is getting compared to Ed Davy.

 

[hilts]

It’s been obvious for many years that the British media (esp BBC) would rather discuss conflict between parties and inflame division amongst the populace rather than promote any improvement made by the incumbent.

Just look how much airtime the frog is getting compared to Ed Davy.

And im sure you have coincidentally come to this conclusion during Labours time in office:-)

 

[mosssideblue]

And im sure you have coincidentally come to this conclusion during Labours time in office:-)

Not at all. Pisses me off greatly that they have been doing it for years

 

[meltonblue]

Not going to happen but I’d rather see them raise income tax and then Reeves resign.

 

[metalblue]

I think the press look for controversy

Is it controversial to not break a manifesto pledge?

 

[Lowtower]

Why dont they just blame the last government for this mess?

 

[metalblue]

Did she say categorically she was increasing income tax in the press conference?

Lol. She categorically ruled it out in July, the previous budget and in the manifesto. She didn’t m, nor did any minister, rule it out when asked in the last few weeks. You’re not stupid mate you know exactly how these things work.

 

[metalblue]

Why dont they just blame the last government for this mess?

Or her estate agent?

Anyway apparently the black hole got £20bn smaller overnight so she can now not raise income tax.

 

[metalblue]

Not going to happen but I’d rather see them raise income tax and then Reeves resign.

Why? On both those points.

 

[mosssideblue]

Is it controversial to not break a manifesto pledge?

No. would be if she did, but we don’t know that yet

 

[metalblue]

It’s been obvious for many years that the British media (esp BBC) would rather discuss conflict between parties and inflame division amongst the populace rather than promote any improvement made by the incumbent.

Just look how much airtime the frog is getting compared to Ed Davy.

 

[mosssideblue]

Lol. She categorically ruled it out in July, the previous budget and in the manifesto. She didn’t m, nor did any minister, rule it out when asked in the last few weeks. You’re not stupid mate you know exactly how these things work.

I do. Press fan flames, public buy into it as being gospel and division sets in

 

[metalblue]

No. would be if she did, but we don’t know that yet

We don’t know what bit mate? That she planned to raise income tax?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Not going to happen but I’d rather see them raise income tax and then Reeves resign.

Agreed that raising income tax is the least worst option.

I actually think Reeves - underwhelming though she is - is about the best they've got. I can't imagine her replacement doing any better and probably worse.

What she needs is 200 deluded Labour back benchers to resign. Not happening of course, so any trimming of the completely out of control government spending, is off the table. We just have to plough into the dirt further and faster.

 

[mosssideblue]

We don’t know what bit mate? That she planned to raise income tax?

Until the budget, anything is simply speculation, yet the press and media stir the pot and suck people into believing they will break a manifesto promise

 

[meltonblue]

Why? On both those points.

Because it’s ultimately the right thing to do but it would be breaking a manifesto pledge. I’d have a lot of respect for her if she did it.

 

[metalblue]

Because it’s ultimately the right thing to do but it would be breaking a manifesto pledge. I’d have a lot of respect for her if she did it.

Why is it the right thing to do?

 

[meltonblue]

Why is it the right thing to do?

Well, let me rephrase it, I think it’s the least worse option. I don’t think she has that many available to her and she’s not going to get any meaningful cuts through.