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WRicko said:
Am I the only one who cannot stand and doesn’t like Wez Streeting ? Even reform voters rang in to LBC and said how well he did
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He's a ****.

Mandy pulling his strings. I doubt the LBC callers are genuine. The same thing is occuring on Sky News where their political reporter's are blowing smoke up his arse.
 
WRicko said:
All these political commentators saying that labour don’t have a plan I don’t get how they can know. I am fairly certain they have said they have been working on renters rights and workers rights for years. The planning reforms seem to have been in the works for a while.

The economic budget issues in this budget and the last one stem from some Tory unfunded spending some we knew about some not some could have in theory been avoided (good luck running the country with ur giving key works pay rises tho ) some they chose to carry out.
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I think a lot of the general frustration is that the first budget was meant to fill the black hole left by the Tories with a clear statement of it being a one off and not coming back for more. In their fiscal plan they had clearly budgeted for cuts to WFA and benefits, however due to their back benchers and an unwillingness to risk a revolt they didnt proceed, thus creating a new "black hole" as people like to call them. Thats around 2.5Bn per year for each year of the parliament so if they had budgeted for an out turn of +10Bn headroom at the end of the parliament, well there it is.

Whether you think cuts to benefits and WFA are the right things to do is a personal thing but its clear that at the budgeting stage Labour thought it was.
 
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TinFoilHat said:
He's a ****.

Mandy pulling his strings. I doubt the LBC callers are genuine. The same thing is occuring on Sky News where their political reporter's are blowing smoke up his arse.
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Why? He's a bit like Angela Rayner, working class done good. He had kidney cancer a couple of yers ago(been there, done that) and got a deep insight to how the NHS works using it rather than going private. I'd rather him than someone who has no personal experience of the system.

My experience with LBC is they are very genuine about callers. And why shouldn't even a Reform voter agree with him doing something they agree with and take the time to call in, after all it's not as if they've got much positive to shout about regarding Reform themselves.
 
It’s Groundhog Day. The exact same thing that happened with the tories - backstabbing, leadership challenges and a lack of leadership is happening with labour.

Forget anything positive they’ve done, as there in a mess
 
WRicko said:
All these political commentators saying that labour don’t have a plan I don’t get how they can know. I am fairly certain they have said they have been working on renters rights and workers rights for years. The planning reforms seem to have been in the works for a while.

The economic budget issues in this budget and the last one stem from some Tory unfunded spending some we knew about some not some could have in theory been avoided (good luck running the country with ur giving key works pay rises tho ) some they chose to carry out.
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Your first paragraph talks about specific policies not plans.

Your second paragraph is wrong and bizarre given your first sentence about how “political commentators” know.
 
hampshireblue said:
Why? He's a bit like Angela Rayner, working class done good. He had kidney cancer a couple of yers ago(been there, done that) and got a deep insight to how the NHS works using it rather than going private. I'd rather him than someone who has no personal experience of the system.

My experience with LBC is they are very genuine about callers. And why shouldn't even a Reform voter agree with him doing something they agree with and take the time to call in, after all it's not as if they've got much positive to shout about regarding Reform themselves.
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I like him.
 
hampshireblue said:
Why? He's a bit like Angela Rayner, working class done good. He had kidney cancer a couple of yers ago(been there, done that) and got a deep insight to how the NHS works using it rather than going private. I'd rather him than someone who has no personal experience of the system.

My experience with LBC is they are very genuine about callers. And why shouldn't even a Reform voter agree with him doing something they agree with and take the time to call in, after all it's not as if they've got much positive to shout about regarding Reform themselves.
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I've met him a couple of times.

A self serving dangerous man. Mates with Mandleson.
 
metalblue said:
Your first paragraph talks about specific policies not plans.

Your second paragraph is wrong and bizarre given your first sentence about how “political commentators” know.
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So specific policy plans are not plans ?

I don’t understand your second paragraph or how what I said that is wrong
 
Vic said:
I'm not that well versed in who does what in NHS admin but I do know our new health centre took 20 years ... and when the GPs had been found to run it, and the Trust had agreed to build it, it then had to go to NHS England (regional then national) to sign it off. It all makes work...
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I think about half of NHSE staff (probably more) are regional. They are basically the old SHA staff that existed prior to NHSE being created. My guess is that SHAs or a form of will be created again and for capital investment a national confirmation at head office will always be needed .So your sign off layers will still exist, just called something else. The reason for this is that the NHS is too big for 4-5000 people sat in Victoria (and a few in Leeds) to oversee. We shall see though.

Removing unnecessary burdens makes perfect sense (and believe me i’ve seen some ridiculous stuff in that regard) but the point remains that the NHS is under managed.
 
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WRicko said:
So specific policy plans are not plans ?

I don’t understand your second paragraph or how what I said that is wrong
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Policy is to address a specific issue, a plan are the actions/steps to achieve an objective.

Let’s take the renters rights bill you mentioned, what is the point of the bill? To improve renters rights, ok so why is that a good thing? Because it’s the right thing to do to help those whose housing situation is vunerable. Ok great, its seems like a good thing to me but it’s a policy to support an ideology (other ideologies on renters are available).

You could say that Reeves’s “fiscal rules” on the economy are a plan. What’s missing is the coherent steps to get to that goal, and, believe it or not, this government is more interest in social issues than businesses which doesn’t usually lend itself well to a coherent economic policy.

The way I read your second paragraph said the budget problems that Reeves faces are all down to the Tories, you stated it as fact (which is wrong) but in your first sentence you’d complained about political commentators stating things as fact when they don’t actually know. I may have misread what you meant of course.
 
As to Andy Burnham getting into parliament via a bi-election, that's not a given.
Is there a safe seat in the North West for Labour? Reform or a Green or a left/Ethnic Muslim candidate will challenge everywhere.
 
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