Is the club going to put in an official complaint about the officiating on Saturday?

Dodge said:
Our rivals go on the pitch in the knowledge that they will get the 50/50 decisions In their favour.
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Someone better tell all our rivals that then because all they do is moan about corruption against them as much as we do against us.

Liverpool fans have compiled lists about the favourable decisions they think City get and that they don’t. They’ve written articles about referee decisions that have gone against them or the way they’re officiated:

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Objective Data: Liverpool Are Refereed VERY VERY Differently To Rival Clubs

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They think we paid off Oliver and two other officials when they went to officiate in the UAE the week before they all officiated that Spurs v Lpool game where Lpool were fucked over and they and many other sets of fans are as convinced as you are about your list in your post that PIGMOL are on our payroll.



Referees were banned from taking on these invites after this occurrence.

They think we were helped all the way through the 2021-22 title win with about half a dozen points winning or game changing decisions that season that went for us and think we cheated our way to that title with PIGMOL.

(this one doesn’t even mention the Rodri handball at Everton from that season.)

They think we were helped with Doku not being penalised for kung fu kicking Mac Allister in injury time the other season.

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"Both come in high" - do they really?!
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I mean, that’s clear as day a penalty. The studs even go from his chest and scrape down to his bollocks. But it wasn’t given against us.

I remember once seeing a post on X that had compiled a list of Sterling dives for penalties, most of which were given for us.

And yet I have compiled a list of about 15 decisions that have favoured Lpool against us alone (never mind any others they’ve got against other teams):
Post in thread 'Liverpool Thread | 2025/26'
https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/liverpool-thread-2025-26.368823/post-18754272

I could do what they do and say it’s corruption, but I don’t because it can’t be true at the same time that my list proves that Liverpool are favoured and we are targeted in a corrupt system and that their lists prove that City are favoured and Lpool are targeted in a corrupt system… I just say that the officiating is shit, for us, for them, and for everyone else because that’s what the actual problem is.

Instead, I posted it as a ‘take the fucking rough with the smooth you Scouse rats’ kind of post.

Some of the decisions that have gone for us over the years have been incredible and as a general fanbase we just completely ignore them and pretend they never happened, airbrushed from memory forever. And some of the shit that’s gone against us (and I’d say we get more shit than positive overall, it’s not a balance, but it’s far from wholly against us) have been incredible also.

Dodge said:
We go on the pitch trying to circumvent the officials, negotiating a path through a minefield of unfathomable decisions and interpretations of the LOTG that fly in the face of fairness.

Our players have suffered this for years. They know its not just about skill, technique or tactics. The psychological effect of this cannot be underestimated.

You can pretty much guarantee the following pattern for every single PL game for Manchester City FC:

* We will be penalised for the slightest transgression.
* We will be flagged early for marginal offside calls, whilst opposition marginal offsides will be allowed to play out and be decided by VAR.
* The threshold for penalty claims will be raised for us and lowered for the opposition.
* Players will be cautioned for barely bookable offences.
* Team fouling will be ignored for our opposition.
* Persistent individual opposition fouling will be allowed without caution thereby taking out any risk of a 2nd yellow.
* Key City players will be booked at the earliest opportunity thereby increasing the risk of a second yellow.
* Time wasting will be ignored for the opposition but be dealt with by a caution for our players (see the barely believable stats for City GK bookings compared to opponent GK cautions).
* Additional time will be applied by a multiple of 2 if we're winning a game, divided by 2 if we're chasing a game.
* Referees will be positioning themselves in our passing lanes.
* VAR will continue to look for reasons to disallow a City goal, whilst looking for ways to allow an opposition goal.
* Impeding of our GK will be allowed for any set piece.
* Tactical breaks will be allowed whenever an oppo GK decides to feign injury at the instruction of the bench.
* Dubious "advantage" plays will be implemented for City despite no advantage.
* Clear and obvious "advantage" plays for City will be pulled back for the offence to allow our oppo to regroup.
* Play will be stopped to allow oppo players to tie their laces.
* Dissent and ref crowding will be allowed for our oppo but punishable by caution for ours.
* After any City VAR decision 10 minutes will be allocated to allow the VAR team time to manipulate any AI images, adjust camera angles, confer with the PL to massage the PIGMOL statement and set the narrative with the broadcasters.

How many times have we heard the term fine margins? Well, if the fine margins are rigged by officialdom, those small percentages decide outcomes and titles, despite world class coaching and world class players.

In rugby union, the appointed referee is analysed, his decision making patterns studied and his interpretation of the rules communicated to the players as part of any game preparation. The TMO process however is transparent, the process shown live in the stadium in real time and decisions are accepted, rarely deemed skewed in the favour of one team.

Compare and contrast the VAR process we get in our national sport.

Institutionalised at PIGMOL, aided and abetted by the PL, and normalised by the likes of Sly, Nonce TV (Salford) Ltd and the Redtop media cartel.

Complaint? What's the point?
Revolution? Bring it fucking on.
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Every set of fans can and do say the exactly the same as you have here. At numerous points through every season, every team is faced with shit decisions that go unfairly against them or favoured the opposition. Every set of fans only remembers those decisions that have gone against them and never remember (or purposely ignore when they know fine well there are loads of examples) the ones that go in their favour.

Every single set of fans is the same. Even Real fucking Madrid fans deludedly complain about corruption against them!

And every set of fans miss the actual problem, which is, the officiating is unacceptably shit, for everyone.

It will only change when we stop with our tin foil hat stuff, when all other fanbases stop with their tin foil hat stuff, and come together like we have over ticketing and fanbases being priced out, and demand that the officiating in this sport dramatically improves, as a combined front.

We (as in all fanbases) need to stop laughing and taking the piss out of each others fanbases when they get shit decisions and stop moaning as individual fanbases when shit decisions go against us. As I’ve said in a previous post, generations of evidence show that doing that changes absolutely nothing. We have to unite and get the FSA on board to rally a movement to improve officiating.
 
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BringBackSwales said:
Would you mind advising me of any similar incidents in the premier league where a two footed lunge on a players lower leg with no contact on the ball wasnt given as a pen? No I didn’t think so
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I resolved my debate on that in the match thread at the time.

That isn’t what my point was, which is fans of all clubs call foul play against their own. What we don’t want to do is go crying about it as a club to the authorities.
 
City shouldn’t but whoever governs VAR should definitely be asking serious questions about how the VAR truck did not see that Foden assault as a foul and penalty. Would love to hear their reasonings. Bent fuckers.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
That's what I meant to say. We should demand the full audio of that offside decision.

People say we aren't scousers but that's not the point. You stand up to bullies and Webb is bullying us. The overall result wasn't unfair; probably should've been 4-2 to them, but the officiating was grossly unfair.
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Of course it was unfair we were the better team and would have won the game if the ref did his job.
 
Dodge said:
The agenda is set for every game. What is implemented depends on actions in the game obviously.
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Obviously!
It must come as a hell of a shock to newly appointed PL refs who have spent there entire careers being the best at applying the rules of the game to arrive at the pinnacle of the sport and find out it's all corrupt against one specific team. Who is it that pulls them to one side and informs them by the way?
 
I think the club should privately approach whoever is in authority on an informal basis and seek clarification face to face. Specifically, eye ball the person as they try to explain the computer generated image for the offside controversy and the dangerous tackle on Foden and then the handball fiasco. Make them squirm then move on.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
I resolved my debate on that in the match thread at the time.

That isn’t what my point was, which is fans of all clubs call foul play against their own. What we don’t want to do is go crying about it as a club to the authorities.
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I’m talking about the Foden incident. Answer 2 questions (1) was it a clear pen, yes or no? (2) have you seen any other incident in any premier league game this season when a 2 footed lunge caught the leg of a player in the area with no contact on the ball where a pen wasn’t given, yes or no?
 
Bez said:
I think the club should privately approach whoever is in authority on an informal basis and seek clarification face to face. Specifically, eye ball the person as they try to explain the computer generated image for the AI. Make them squirm then move on.
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Ask Saturdays VAR guy to do it on a polygraph (lie detector)
 
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BringBackSwales said:
I’m talking about the Foden incident. Answer 2 questions (1) was it a clear pen, yes or no? (2) have you seen any other incident in any premier league game this season when a 2 footed lunge caught the leg of a player in the area with no contact on the ball where a pen wasn’t given, yes or no?
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It wasn’t a penalty, no. If the challenge comes in before the shot is released then yes, it’s a penalty. This is what I said on Saturday. It’s a weird situation as if it’s anywhere else in the pitch it’s a free kick. It can’t be a free kick and a penalty though if the shot, and therefore the threat on goal, has already passed.

If it was given against us in that scenario I’d be fucking pissed right off as the threat to goal is already gone. Very bizarre situation but only because it’s in the box.
 
BringBackSwales said:
I’m talking about the Foden incident. Answer 2 questions (1) was it a clear pen, yes or no? (2) have you seen any other incident in any premier league game this season when a 2 footed lunge caught the leg of a player in the area with no contact on the ball where a pen wasn’t given, yes or no?
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It was a foul and a penalty for me, but it wasn’t two-footed.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
It wasn’t a penalty, no. If the challenge comes in before the shot is released then yes, it’s a penalty. This is what I said on Saturday. It’s a weird situation as if it’s anywhere else in the pitch it’s a free kick. It can’t be a free kick and a penalty though if the shot, and therefore the threat on goal, has already passed.

If it was given against us in that scenario I’d be fucking pissed right off as the threat to goal is already gone. Very bizarre situation but only because it’s in the box.
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LangleyBlue1970 said:
It wasn’t a penalty, no. If the challenge comes in before the shot is released then yes, it’s a penalty. This is what I said on Saturday. It’s a weird situation as if it’s anywhere else in the pitch it’s a free kick. It can’t be a free kick and a penalty though if the shot, and therefore the threat on goal, has already passed.

If it was given against us in that scenario I’d be fucking pissed right off as the threat to goal is already gone. Very bizarre situation but only because it’s in the box.
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Fucking hell if a foul in the area wasn’t given against us in the same situation I’d think we’d be scandalously lucky. He didn’t get the shot off cleanly because of the illegal challenge. For me it was a red card as well as a one, completely out of control lunge, could have broken his leg and nowhere near the ball
 
BringBackSwales said:
Fucking hell if a foul in the area wasn’t given against us in the same situation I’d think we’d be scandalously lucky. He didn’t get the shot off cleanly because of the illegal challenge. For me it was a red card as well as a one, completely out of control lunge, could have broken his leg and nowhere near the ball
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The shot was off before the challenge. In relative terms, way before.

It’s Monday now though and I’d talked about this during the game. Like arseholes though, we’ve all got opinions, and fair enough if that’s yours. Not going to row about it.
 
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