The Labour Government

[BlueHammer85]

The vocal minority many of whom are virtue signallers who have fuck all to do will always try and shout down common sense. They’ve got a shock coming in 4 years time

You might have.

Reform have gone from 1/4 to 5/6 to win the next election in the space of a few months.

 

[Palerider]

Germany’s dependence on Russian oil and gas has disproportionately screwed their economy for the last 4 years.

Doesn't change the maths.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

It would be great if a government just ran the country in the interests of all its people. The Tories destroyed themselves by fighting with each other and making policy decisons to keep their rebel backanchers at bay. Labour have started doing precisely the same thing. Everything is about preserving their own personal status.

This is the state of 'Government' and has been for some time. The only interest MPs have is to remain in power or achieve power so they can, as it turns out, continue the economic sectarianism we have become accustomed to. They rarely make me feel that I am being governed for the benefit of the national interest.

 

[kaz7]

I have just read the plans for pip and the disability part of UC, they give very exact numbers on who wont get the daily living part of pip, means half the current payment you receive will be lost, if you can be helped by appliances you lose that bit as well

Definite numbers means targets again, the return to ATOS scandal not they will admit to giving the assessors targets to fail

For god sake i have no energy for a fight anymore, fuck off

 

[hilts]

Estimates of GDP impact are increasing.

Latest is 6-8%

From Stanford

The Economic Impact of Brexit

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By all means convince yourself you know better, but you won't convince anyone else.

Not trying to convince anyone I already said im not that bothered about the numbers, we already knew about the 6% to 8% claims thats what started us discussing this.

Im not even gonna try and convince you to read posts and threads properly as you obviously have a closed mind and are certainly not as clever as you think you are:-)

Off you pop.

 

[Palerider]

You might have.

Reform have gone from 1/4 to 5/6 to win the next election in the space of a few months.

Not sure that is true. Checking on Betfair, Reforms lowest ever price was 1.85 (5/6) and are now 2.04 (21/20) to win most seats. Labour are currently 3.75 (11/4).

 

[Axel Freed]

So, using your "common sense" how would you sort the genuine from the free loaders?

Reintroduce face to face assessments at a bare minimum

Only the most severe diagnoses of mental illness to be eligible

Tens of thousands of feckless youngsters feeling “anxious” or variants thereof don’t even get an assessment. They’ll feel a lot more anxious when they’re getting £7.50 an hour as a steward at City but that’s life - nobody owes you a living

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

This has to be a wind up but if not, I bet you're a hoot to know. Any minimum wage job is effectively worthless and unnecessary to you then. Care workers, street cleaners, hotel staff...all worthless. No doubt you have no cause to use any of those types of workers.

If them low paid goon stewards all quit today, none of us would be going to the match on saturday.
Some other low paid goons stack the shelves in the supermarket you buy from, clean your street so you aren't infested with rats and work in the facotries making the food and household items you are constantly buying.

If we didn't have these 'low paid goons', your life would be a lot worse.

I think that we found out during COVID ... who the most valuable workers were (and no it wasn't MPs or CEOs)

Some people have very short memories.

 

[hilts]

Doesn't change the maths.

Nice to know there are other things though that can affect the economy outside of Brexit. The excuse for the French not storming away is probably national shrugging or gout caused by too much wine and cheese:-)

 

[west didsblue]

Doesn't change the maths.

Nope but it provides an explanation of Germany’s poor performance and why another country might be a better comparison.

 

[deano ou812]

It would be great if a government just ran the country in the interests of all its people. The Tories destroyed themselves by fighting with each other and making policy decisons to keep their rebel backanchers at bay. Labour have started doing precisely the same thing. Everything is about preserving their own personal status.

Hasn’t that basically been what it’s always about their own self interests,screw the general public,that’s why you are best grabbing what you can as these fuckers certainly don’t have your interests at heart ..

 

[hilts]

I think that we found out during COVID ... who the most valuable workers were (and no it wasn't MPs or CEOs)

Some people have very short memories.

On the button

 

[mosssideblue]

I have just read the plans for pip and the disability part of UC, they give very exact numbers on who wont get the daily living part of pip, means half the current payment you receive will be lost, if you can be helped by appliances you lose that bit as well

Definite numbers means targets again, the return to ATOS scandal not they will admit to giving the assessors targets to fail

For god sake i have no energy for a fight anymore, fuck off

Isn't Pip there to enable you to buy the appliances that we need?

 

[mosssideblue]

Reintroduce face to face assessments at a bare minimum

Only the most severe diagnoses of mental illness to be eligible

Tens of thousands of feckless youngsters feeling “anxious” or variants thereof don’t even get an assessment. They’ll feel a lot more anxious when they’re getting £7.50 an hour as a steward at City but that’s life - nobody owes you a living

I agree with your sentiment but don't think it is as easy as that else it would have been done by now

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Well we could stop giving low skilled goons huge pay rises in the form of raising the minimum wage so far and so often which will create more jobs.

Getting all these lazy fuckers off benefits frees up billions of pounds for capital investment in sectors like AI which”ll promote growth and create jobs

I see some people have moved on from hating people who arrive in boats to hating people with children ....

 

[Scottyboi]

I have just read the plans for pip and the disability part of UC, they give very exact numbers on who wont get the daily living part of pip, means half the current payment you receive will be lost, if you can be helped by appliances you lose that bit as well

Definite numbers means targets again, the return to ATOS scandal not they will admit to giving the assessors targets to fail

For god sake i have no energy for a fight anymore, fuck off

Where you getting this info Kaz could you message it me please cheers :)

 

[Stoned Rose]

I see some people have moved on from hating people who arrive in boats to hating people with children ....

Children who come by boats…….

 

[west didsblue]

Isn't Pip there to enable you to buy the appliances that we need?

I thought he was the protagonist in Great Expectations?

 

[hilts]

Children who come by boats…….

Whose dad's are etihad stewards

 

[Axel Freed]

I agree with your sentiment but don't think it is as easy as that else it would have been done by now

Don’t get me wrong I don’t really expect it to happen.

Politicians stopped making pragmatic long term decisions a long time ago if indeed they ever did and now they just do whatever they think will get them re elected in 5 years time. Farage will be no different I imagine.