The Labour Government

kaz7 said:
I have just read the plans for pip and the disability part of UC, they give very exact numbers on who wont get the daily living part of pip, means half the current payment you receive will be lost, if you can be helped by appliances you lose that bit as well

Definite numbers means targets again, the return to ATOS scandal not they will admit to giving the assessors targets to fail

For god sake i have no energy for a fight anymore, fuck off
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Don’t worry Kaz7, they are not after genuine cases keep all your letters off the doctors and hospital and hopefully there are people who can help/advise you on your claim

Another reorganisation of the benefits system because of the large increase in benefit claimants, it’s not in anyone’s interests just wastes even more money when they already know the answer.
Since they raised the state pension age it’s thrown more and more women on to sickness benefits and in the future many thousands more will find it necessary to claim disability.

Working beyond age 60yrs brings ill health for men and women. The government know that very few people stay fit and healthy in later life.
 
TinFoilHat said:
news.sky.com

Politics latest: Government U-turns on key part of employment reforms

The government has U-turned on its pledge to introduce day one protections from unfair dismissal. Concerns had been raised about the potential change in the Employment Rights Bill and the impact it could have on small businesses.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

Red Tory bastards.

It's almost like it's an apology for taxing some more rich cunts/corporations yesterday.
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Don’t be silly. It’s just the media doing the u turns or some such shit.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Net migration down to 204k last year - the problem for the Right switches to "there are too many people leaving our country". The ONS say every 100k drop costs the treasury £7bn in taxes. So if its down by over 400k thats @£28bn LOST to the treasury.

Oh and the abolition of the 2 child benefit will be a ruinous £3bn cost. Thats the story - people leaving and stying to take kids out of poverty.
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£7bn per 100k. So each is paying £70k in tax? Per year? That sounds very unlikely.
 
hilts said:
No I don't get your point if UK business have suffered and EU ones haven't then surely France and Germany would be growing more than us and even picking up some of our business. So unless the UK would have grown massively for some unknown reason by staying in, much more than the other two, then why does it look like all 3 of us are doing pretty much the same as we were give or take.
Have businesses concentrated more on domestic markets, have they still managed to do business with the EU regardless, have they explored other countries.
It is probably ridiculously complicated and we will never know.
Anyhow as I haven't met one single person in a decade that has been badly affected and I personally wasn't that bothered about the economics plus we have remainers in charge who could get closer ties then I'm struggling to see why its so prevalent on here.

Much bigger problems to solve.

Business find ways, politicians find excuses. Everyone is too busy pointing at each other rather than actually coming up with new, big and radical ideas. Its why the budget was low on ideas but big on fiddling around the edges. All a bit meh.
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It's prevalent because the effects are pervasive. Apart from stuff like duties to pay on simple stuff like sending stuff sold on ebay to the EU, any firm that exports to the EU has extra costs. My nephew is a director of a firm exporting agricultural equipment and they've opened an office in the EU. Others are looking to manufacture in the EU.

Now be sceptical if you wish, but what equivalent benefits has any UK business got?
 
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It's prevalent because the effects are pervasive. Apart from stuff like duties to pay on simple stuff like sending stuff sold on ebay to the EU, any firm that exports to the EU has extra costs. My nephew is a director of a firm exporting agricultural equipment and they've opened an office in the EU. Others are looking to manufacture in the EU.

Now be sceptical if you wish, but what equivalent benefits has any UK business got?
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Come back when you can explain how this armaegeddon isnt shown in growth and gdp in comparison with France and Germany, you can't.

You gave me ebay and your nephew.

The cheek of it .
 
hilts said:
Come back when you can explain how this armaegeddon isnt shown in growth and gdp in comparison with France and Germany, you can't.

You gave me ebay and your nephew.

The cheek of it .
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Don't worry. Next time I won't bother with any examples.
 
Vic said:
Don't worry. Next time I won't bother with any examples.
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You didn't bother with my post, like I said it would be ignored by remainers, no view on why we arent falling behind, either, being right is a curse:-)
Your mind is made up fella, you dont really want discussion you are permanently campaigning.
I gave an economists view, there are stats on gdp and growth.
You gave your nephew. Don't try the poor me bit.
 
If you get a company car and rant about this then ask yourself - if your company car list allows Audi's and BMW's then the lease scheme - because thats what Motability is - cut them from your scheme and you are only allowed cars up to the value of a Corsa. Thats fair? I worked in a place once when the company car was a base model Peugeot 309 two door. When we asked why the director ( who drove a Range Rover ) told us "because they don't do a one door. The politics of envy is not an upward punching thing its a downward punching one

www.bbc.co.uk

'Premium' cars like BMW and Mercedes cut from Motability scheme

Motability says it will provide vehicles that meet disabled peoples' needs and are safe and affordable.
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Under the circumstances, they’re doing well.

However, those on the right will always make hay. It’s the left that scare me at the moment.
 
metalblue said:
£7bn per 100k. So each is paying £70k in tax? Per year? That sounds very unlikely.
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I don’t think his figures are right but it’s not just about what taxes they pay. Think it’s based on this report -

obr.uk

The impact of migration on the fiscal forecast - Office for Budget Responsibility

Following the upwards revision to our migration forecast, this box explored the implications of higher migration on our central forecasts for tax revenues, spending and borrowing. We also drew on alternative scenarios for migration to illustrate how uncertainty in the migration forecast...
obr.uk obr.uk
 
Brewster's millions said:
The right wouldn’t vote for a woman to be PM then?

The Tories won’t be getting the right wing vote with a woman in charge?

I can see you’ve put a lot of thought into this one.
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You ignore the point she is black though because that is the real truth

Her being a woman just adds to it and I did consider putting that in or not my first post.

In my opinion these right wing / reform voters are generally always looking backwards to a time that has gone when white men ran the show and women supported the husband.

He appeals to the misogynist voter.
 
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