The Labour Government

Axel Freed said:
You could be right, a wise man never trusts mid term polls which invariably hugely favour the opposition but in this case it could be different. Farage has captured the zeitgeist and unless there’s a Tory resurgence to split the right wing vote (about as likely as a utd resurgence) then it seems like his to lose.
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I wouldn’t agree with that, I think Farages best chance is a bit of a Tory resurgence actually.
 
mosssideblue said:
Not great tbh. Getting a DFG for a bathroom conversion which will help
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I had my bath taken out and a big shower put in by the local authority when i got disabled, they did the whole room, tiles off the walls and new ones put on , low sink and high loo and flooring and a new door! I wasnt expecting all that but it made life so much easier, hope you get exactly what you need as the small things really can make a big difference. Virtual hug x
 
kaz7 said:
I had my bath taken out and a big shower put in by the local authority when i got disabled, they did the whole room, tiles off the walls and new ones put on , low sink and high loo and flooring and a new door! I wasnt expecting all that but it made life so much easier, hope you get exactly what you need as the small things really can make a big difference. Virtual hug x
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That’s good you got all that. I’m getting similar, room gutted, new shower sink and a wash dry toilet, plus several doors being widened
 
bluethrunthru said:
so a couple has 4 children and can afford them. Mum dies suddenly when all 4 kids are under 10 years old. Dad has to give up work to look after his kids. No relies on U/C. Your answer to a widowed man and 4 kids who recently lost their mum is "tough - not my problem why should I pay"?

I only ask because the decent humane Christian thing to say is "sorry this has happened. What can we as a collective do to help you"
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The Benefit Cap hasn't changed, if he was renting with a 3 bed need in Manchester he may be entitled to about £33,000 but would be capped to £22,020.

So the extra £7k for 2 kids makes no difference unless they are on a disability related benefit which exempts you from the BC.
 
kaz7 said:
I have just read the plans for pip and the disability part of UC, they give very exact numbers on who wont get the daily living part of pip, means half the current payment you receive will be lost, if you can be helped by appliances you lose that bit as well

Definite numbers means targets again, the return to ATOS scandal not they will admit to giving the assessors targets to fail

For god sake i have no energy for a fight anymore, fuck off
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Don’t worry Kaz7, they are not after genuine cases keep all your letters off the doctors and hospital and hopefully there are people who can help/advise you on your claim

Another reorganisation of the benefits system because of the large increase in benefit claimants, it’s not in anyone’s interests just wastes even more money when they already know the answer.
Since they raised the state pension age it’s thrown more and more women on to sickness benefits and in the future many thousands more will find it necessary to claim disability.

Working beyond age 60yrs brings ill health for men and women. The government know that very few people stay fit and healthy in later life.
 
TinFoilHat said:
news.sky.com

Politics latest: Government U-turns on key part of employment reforms

The government has U-turned on its pledge to introduce day one protections from unfair dismissal. Concerns had been raised about the potential change in the Employment Rights Bill and the impact it could have on small businesses.
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Red Tory bastards.

It's almost like it's an apology for taxing some more rich cunts/corporations yesterday.
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Don’t be silly. It’s just the media doing the u turns or some such shit.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Net migration down to 204k last year - the problem for the Right switches to "there are too many people leaving our country". The ONS say every 100k drop costs the treasury £7bn in taxes. So if its down by over 400k thats @£28bn LOST to the treasury.

Oh and the abolition of the 2 child benefit will be a ruinous £3bn cost. Thats the story - people leaving and stying to take kids out of poverty.
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£7bn per 100k. So each is paying £70k in tax? Per year? That sounds very unlikely.
 
hilts said:
No I don't get your point if UK business have suffered and EU ones haven't then surely France and Germany would be growing more than us and even picking up some of our business. So unless the UK would have grown massively for some unknown reason by staying in, much more than the other two, then why does it look like all 3 of us are doing pretty much the same as we were give or take.
Have businesses concentrated more on domestic markets, have they still managed to do business with the EU regardless, have they explored other countries.
It is probably ridiculously complicated and we will never know.
Anyhow as I haven't met one single person in a decade that has been badly affected and I personally wasn't that bothered about the economics plus we have remainers in charge who could get closer ties then I'm struggling to see why its so prevalent on here.

Much bigger problems to solve.

Business find ways, politicians find excuses. Everyone is too busy pointing at each other rather than actually coming up with new, big and radical ideas. Its why the budget was low on ideas but big on fiddling around the edges. All a bit meh.
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It's prevalent because the effects are pervasive. Apart from stuff like duties to pay on simple stuff like sending stuff sold on ebay to the EU, any firm that exports to the EU has extra costs. My nephew is a director of a firm exporting agricultural equipment and they've opened an office in the EU. Others are looking to manufacture in the EU.

Now be sceptical if you wish, but what equivalent benefits has any UK business got?
 
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Vic said:
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It's prevalent because the effects are pervasive. Apart from stuff like duties to pay on simple stuff like sending stuff sold on ebay to the EU, any firm that exports to the EU has extra costs. My nephew is a director of a firm exporting agricultural equipment and they've opened an office in the EU. Others are looking to manufacture in the EU.

Now be sceptical if you wish, but what equivalent benefits has any UK business got?
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Come back when you can explain how this armaegeddon isnt shown in growth and gdp in comparison with France and Germany, you can't.

You gave me ebay and your nephew.

The cheek of it .
 
hilts said:
Come back when you can explain how this armaegeddon isnt shown in growth and gdp in comparison with France and Germany, you can't.

You gave me ebay and your nephew.

The cheek of it .
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Don't worry. Next time I won't bother with any examples.
 
Vic said:
Don't worry. Next time I won't bother with any examples.
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You didn't bother with my post, like I said it would be ignored by remainers, no view on why we arent falling behind, either, being right is a curse:-)
Your mind is made up fella, you dont really want discussion you are permanently campaigning.
I gave an economists view, there are stats on gdp and growth.
You gave your nephew. Don't try the poor me bit.
 
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