PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[dadnlad]

in my distant memory wasnt chelsea or more Abramovich last to be persuaded sign up to FFP rules maybe because knew this was under carpet

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Quick internet search show how much the UAE investment pledge is to the UK - double what it pledged in 2021 (£20billion)

Imagine the state of the UK if this was actually reneged on!!

Rachel would have to tax benefits!!

 

[Metal Biker]

I can see it now, Sky Sports, breaking news..

"BREAKING NEWS;...Everton Football Club have announced a new green incentive at the Hill Dickenson Stadium. The club says they are on track for Net Zero by 2030.

Manchester City have also been cleared of their 115 charges.

Now, onto tonights big clash between Fulham and Crystal Palace, live on Sky Sports PL and Main Event!"

 

[Suffolk Blue]

You, you Rag **** are Roy Keane and I hereby claim my £5

Ha, ha - I believe he did once live in Suffolk but I never saw him

 

[richards30]

Imagine the state of the UK if this was actually reneged on!!

Rachel would have to tax benefits!!

Worst case i`m sure the UK government would step in if Khaldoon wanted it?

 

[terraloon]

Paying a player of book for him to sign for your club instead of another should be points deduction! My guess a big fine maybe a transfer ban! The media will report it for a day or two not much uproar in the media never to be brought up again and it will all die down after a day or two!

Not wishing to split hairs but the charges don’t seem to include payments being made to players the payments were, it seems, they were to agents and intermediaries.

 

[Mike S]

Sporting advantage will become subjective

VAR will take a look......

 

[ArniArason]

Appeal only possible if the arbitration panel have failed to follow process or rule of law and that is back to the tribunal system The verdict isn't appealable and the HC wont get involved that as far as I understand it


Both parties are awaiting the verdict the only dragging out would be the announcement agreement

I'm sure this has probably been said many times before, but, if the verdict is 'we are guilty on the main charges', that means that they believe (think they have proof) that actual fraud has been committed and it becomes a legal matter. So appeal through any non-legal process (i.e. CAS etc) becomes irrelevant anyway, because the next phase would be real life legal action. If the courts then find no parties on our side have done wrong, then it leaves the PL in a farcial situation of trying to charge us with something that real life courts have ruled we haven't done.

 

[waspish]

Not wishing to split hairs but the charges don’t seem to include payments being made to players the payments were, it seems, they were to agents and intermediaries.

The club admitted it and it wasn’t in the accounts! Fraud

 

[crystal_mais]

Imagine the state of the UK if this was actually reneged on!!

Rachel would have to tax benefits!!

and Donnie across the pond loves the UAE

 

[Centurions]

in my distant memory wasnt chelsea or more Abramovich last to be persuaded sign up to FFP rules maybe because knew this was under carpet

Rules like FFP are voted in with a majority, whether they voted against them or not I have no idea but if Chelsea want to compete in the PL then they have to agree to the rules. There's no 'first or last' to sign up to them.

 

[Protein Junkie]

I can see it now, Sky Sports, breaking news..

"BREAKING NEWS;...Everton Football Club have announced a new green incentive at the Hill Dickenson Stadium. The club says they are on track for Net Zero by 2030.

Manchester City have got away with their 115 charges.

Now, onto tonights big clash between Fulham and Crystal Palace, live on Sky Sports PL and Main Event!"

Amended Mr Biker sir

 

[Metal Biker]

Amended Mr Biker sir

Fool that I am! :)

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

31st of February I’ve heard

 

[Gordyola]

I'm sure this has probably been said many times before, but, if the verdict is 'we are guilty on the main charges', that means that they believe (think they have proof) that actual fraud has been committed and it becomes a legal matter. So appeal through any non-legal process (i.e. CAS etc) becomes irrelevant anyway, because the next phase would be real life legal action. If the courts then find no parties on our side have done wrong, then it leaves the PL in a farcial situation of trying to charge us with something that real life courts have ruled we haven't done.

I was pointing out the arbitration process which is a legal process as is CAS

If City are guilty of breaking PL financial reporting rules its doest necessarily mean that there is serious fraud which would attract the attention of the SFO. If they were to be investigated by SFO then it's likely the tribunal would have to hold off any punishment pending SFO investigation. If the SFO found no case to answer then the tribunal could then issue punishment, as they had found City guilty of having broken PL rules

 

[halfcenturyup]

I was pointing out the arbitration process which is a legal process as is CAS

If City are guilty of breaking PL financial reporting rules its doest necessarily mean that there is serious fraud which would attract the attention of the SFO. If they were to be investigated by SFO then it's likely the tribunal would have to hold off any punishment pending SFO investigation. If the SFO found no case to answer then the tribunal could then issue punishment, as they had found City guilty of having broken PL rules

Ah, so that is what is happening. The PL have passed the finding of fraud onto the SFO and the panel can't announce their findings until that investigation has finished. See you in five years.

(I'm joking .......)

 

[Norbert D]

I was pointing out the arbitration process which is a legal process as is CAS

If City are guilty of breaking PL financial reporting rules its doest necessarily mean that there is serious fraud which would attract the attention of the SFO. If they were to be investigated by SFO then it's likely the tribunal would have to hold off any punishment pending SFO investigation. If the SFO found no case to answer then the tribunal could then issue punishment, as they had found City guilty of having broken PL rules

Is this not back to the old chestnut “you probably committed fraud but we can’t really prove it but we can sanction you?” which would hardly seem fair. Also the Premier League have run illegal schemes before and been called out by City. If they try and fuck us there’s no way this isn’t going further. In my opinion.

 

[ArniArason]

Appeal only possible if the arbitration panel have failed to follow process or rule of law and that is back to the tribunal system The verdict isn't appealable and the HC wont get involved that as far as I understand it


Both parties are awaiting the verdict the only dragging out would be the announcement agreement

I sure this has probably been said many times before, but, if the verdict is 'we are guilty on the main charges', that means that actual fraud has been committed and it becomes a legal matter. So appeal through any nonlegal process (i.e. CAS etc) becomes irrelevant anyway, because the next phase would be real life legal action. If the courts then find no parties on our side have done wrong, then it leaves the PL in a farcial situation of trying to charge us with something that real life courts have ruled we haven't done.

I was pointing out the arbitration process which is a legal process as is CAS

If City are guilty of breaking PL financial reporting rules its doest necessarily mean that there is serious fraud which would attract the attention of the SFO. If they were to be investigated by SFO then it's likely the tribunal would have to hold off any punishment pending SFO investigation. If the SFO found no case to answer then the tribunal could then issue punishment, as they had found City guilty of having broken PL rules

I can't see a scenario where the most serious conviction by the PL wouldn't mean the SFO are involved, as they relate to what would be fraud and collusion from numerous global corporations and government officials.

 

[Gordyola]

Is this not back to the old chestnut “you probably committed fraud but we can’t really prove it but we can sanction you?” which would hardly seem fair. Also the Premier League have run illegal schemes before and been called out by City. If they try and fuck us there’s no way this isn’t going further. In my opinion.

City signed up to the PL arbitration rules that exclude CAS and like I said an arbitration court verdict cannot be appealed only points of law or procedure that the panel failed to follow

 

[Gordyola]

I sure this has probably been said many times before, but, if the verdict is 'we are guilty on the main charges', that means that actual fraud has been committed and it becomes a legal matter. So appeal through any nonlegal process (i.e. CAS etc) becomes irrelevant anyway, because the next phase would be real life legal action. If the courts then find no parties on our side have done wrong, then it leaves the PL in a farcial situation of trying to charge us with something that real life courts have ruled we haven't done.

I can't see a scenario where the most serious conviction by the PL wouldn't mean the SFO are involved, as they relate to what would be fraud and collusion from numerous global corporations and government officials.

Serious fraud would have to involved the company statements being intentionally false and be serious enough for the serious fraud office to be interested Although fraud isn’t include in the limitations I somewhat doubt that, has its so long ago and relatively minor then it wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow at SFO