PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Paladin]

Is this one being investigated by the FA, rather than the PL mate? If so, why?

The PL has a separate ongoing investigation. One commentator suggests a sporting sanction is unlikely as it would discourage other clubs from self-reporting.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

The PL has a separate ongoing investigation. One commentator suggests a sporting sanction is unlikely as it would discourage other clubs from self-reporting.

that makes zero sense as all clubs could do something dodgy then self report it to get off. It's very simple this case, has a sporting advantage happened yes or no. If it has then it's a points deduction no ifs, no buts

 

[halfcenturyup]

Is this one being investigated by the FA, rather than the PL mate? If so, why?

Because the FA can't apply a points deduction in the PL and then the PL can say it has already been dealt with by a fine from the FA? Trebles all round.

Edit: It's the old Liverpool hacking soft-shoe shuffle.

 

[dadnlad]

If I recall correctly, part of the consideration when deciding punishments for PSR breaches (see Everton/Forest) was whether their misdemeanors had led to sporting advantage or not.

Making payments off the books to secure players they otherwise wouldn't have signed sounds like a pretty clear sporting advantage to me!

10pts deduction per charge and stripped of all trophies won during the offending period. Absolutely disgusting that we had to play a Champions League final against a bunch of cheats.

Sporting advantage will become subjective

 

[halfcenturyup]

The PL has a separate ongoing investigation. One commentator suggests a sporting sanction is unlikely as it would discourage other clubs from self-reporting.

Which commentator was that?

 

[Paladin]

that makes zero sense as all clubs could do something dodgy then self report it to get off. It's very simple this case, has a sporting advantage happened yes or no. If it has then it's a points deduction no ifs, no buts

It was Solhekol at Sky Sports offering that opinion, probably as a poor attempt to exert some influence. I wouldn't worry too much about his comment.

 

[slbsn]

Because the FA can't apply a points deduction in the PL and then the PL can say it has already been dealt with by a fine from the FA? Trebles all round.

Edit: It's the old Liverpool hacking soft-shoe shuffle.

FA can apply a points deduction

 

[Paladin]

Which commentator was that?

 

[slbsn]

The PL has a separate ongoing investigation. One commentator suggests a sporting sanction is unlikely as it would discourage other clubs from self-reporting.

Pure Chelsea PR. And total nonsense. The self reporting incentive is a) because they have to b) taken into account with the discount to the sanction (perhaps 30%).

 

[deano ou812]

So basically Chelsea will be lauded and praised for admitting they cheated and gaining an advantage over their competitors,never mind nothing to see here now,but what about City ..

 

[richards30]

So basically Chelsea will be lauded and praised for admitting they cheated and gaining an advantage over their competitors,never mind nothing to see here now,but what about City ..

Thats the crux of it yeah.

 

[Centurions]

FA can apply a points deduction

I thought the FA could request a points deduction via the PL but ultimately it's up to the PL whether they do or not?

 

[Centurions]

that makes zero sense as all clubs could do something dodgy then self report it to get off. It's very simple this case, has a sporting advantage happened yes or no. If it has then it's a points deduction no ifs, no buts

Or whatever the sums involved are, get multiplied by a number (10 say) which could be £200million in Chelsea's case.

 

[Gordyola]

Hey? The club want a resolution ASAP either way it goes. If it’s bad news we appeal and drag the bastards through the high court. It’s the Premier League who are dragging it out in case or maybe they know it’s gone against them. They only have leverage whilst we are presumed guilty.

Appeal only possible if the arbitration panel have failed to follow process or rule of law and that is back to the tribunal system The verdict isn't appealable and the HC wont get involved that as far as I understand it


Both parties are awaiting the verdict the only dragging out would be the announcement agreement

 

[halfcenturyup]

FA can apply a points deduction

Incorrectly worded :) I am old.

The FA won't impose a points deduction and then the PL can say it was handled with a fine by the FA. Trebles all round.

 

[waspish]

If I recall correctly, part of the consideration when deciding punishments for PSR breaches (see Everton/Forest) was whether their misdemeanors had led to sporting advantage or not.

Making payments off the books to secure players they otherwise wouldn't have signed sounds like a pretty clear sporting advantage to me!

10pts deduction per charge and stripped of all trophies won during the offending period. Absolutely disgusting that we had to play a Champions League final against a bunch of cheats.

Yep we know next season rules are changing regarding % of turnover on wages I wonder if this rule will be still in the new rules

 

[waspish]

Sporting advantage will become subjective

A player of hazard quality! If we had him what’s the chance we get at least 3 points more? Yep it is subjective and you can bet there will be an argument by Chelsea pointing at other clubs buying top quality players and they got worse, so they can argue that!

 

[mcfcinprague]

I'm on a cruise over Christmas and Mrs Moon had the option of half a dozen cabins for us....I picked level 11 cabin 115 or as it'll be shown on the door 11115.

I was expecting this to be the last hurrah for all this shite and that I could smile every time I went in but, seems like it could be months or possibly fucking years yet.

Where you off to Mr Moon?

Me and Mrs Prague go on 20th on Iona to Lisbon, Madeira and the Canaries for two weeks

 

[City Raider]

Quick internet search show how much the UAE investment pledge is to the UK - double what it pledged in 2021 (£20billion)

This has to be a factor, there’s just no way the govt isn’t aware of the status of these charges.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Where you off to Mr Moon?

Me and Mrs Prague go on 20th on Iona to Lisbon, Madeira and the Canaries for two weeks

MSC to Canaries & Madeira sail on 21/12 from Tenerife.... strangely enough.