PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

What’s the score with issuing the verdict, does it go to both or does it go to the those who originally commissioned it, ie. the PL?
 
Stoned Rose said:
Latest one from the rags at work is our recent cheap acquisitions - Guehi, Cherki, Donnarumma, prove our guilt.

You see, we’ve been found guilty so what we’re doing now is booking the “published” fee (ie 20m for Guehi) to make the books look right, but our owner is transferring the rest (another 40m they reckon) to Palace’s owner’s secret personal account.

Because, why else have we gone from throwing 100m at Grealish to little silly 20-30m transfer fees?
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So they are basically saying all the other clubs are 'in on it' then?

Interesting.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Asking the question, as it’s well outside my area of expertise: is there any prospect this could have gone into arbitration mid-trial, and the fact of the arbitration could not lawfully be reported upon?

And if 1. is feasible, then it’s surely certain that there could be an embargo on any determination.
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I would say it's well inside your area of expertise to know that it's not a "trial"!

But setting that aside, it seems pretty improbable that the panel are still sat there ruminating on the evidence and trying to make up their minds on the charges. I simply don't believe that the issues were that complicated that it needs a year to consider them.

I'm still of the opinion that something happened in March/April that had a material bearing on the outcome. Let's assume you're right; what might have occasioned that?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I would say it's well inside your area of expertise to know that it's not a "trial"!

But setting that aside, it seems pretty improbable that the panel are still sat there ruminating on the evidence and trying to make up their minds on the charges. I simply don't believe that the issues were that complicated that it needs a year to consider them.

I'm still of the opinion that something happened in March/April that had a material bearing on the outcome. Let's assume you're right; what might have occasioned that?
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Contested initial civil proceedings are a trial. Any subsequent proceedings challenging the outcome are an appeal.

So yes, a trial.

Civil trials are a thing.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Asking the question, as it’s well outside my area of expertise: is there any prospect this could have gone into arbitration mid-trial, and the fact of the arbitration could not lawfully be reported upon?

And if 1. is feasible, then it’s surely certain that there could be an embargo on any determination.
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it’s even further out of my area of expertise and wouldn’t ordinarily try to analyse something I know so little about.

But there must come a point - and the feeling grows stronger with every passing day - whereby all you need is common sense rather than legal knowledge to conclude something very odd is going on.

FWIW I’ve not reached that point yet and still think it’s more likely the panel has been delayed due to other priorities / unforeseen circumstances. But that’s growing less credible as time goes on.
 
I am more of the belief that their explanation of their conclusions is complex and they are being extremely careful in how things are worded.
It would be all to easy to use a phrase like 'misled' rather than 'mistook' and it have considerable repercussions.

There might also be so consideration regarding the ATP rulings that unwittingly have repercussions for this verdict. Although the two are said to be distinct, can it really be true that our accounts are judged on years where we were subjected to unfair rules?
 
we were charged 06 Feb 2023. maybe something on the anniversary? falls on a Friday just before visit Anfield two days later haha

also isnt this January period when we find out if anyone charged for PSR issues for season 24-25?

whats the hold up on the Chelsea case, find it unreal thats not fully settled yet given they self admitted so no need for lengthy guilty or not process at all in that or looking at evidence...
 
mcfcphil said:
it’s even further out of my area of expertise and wouldn’t ordinarily try to analyse something I know so little about.

But there must come a point - and the feeling grows stronger with every passing day - whereby all you need is common sense rather than legal knowledge to conclude something very odd is going on.

FWIW I’ve not reached that point yet and still think it’s more likely the panel has been delayed due to other priorities / unforeseen circumstances. But that’s growing less credible as time goes on.
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No, it’s definitely getting there, mate.
 
I think it's worth revisiting the theory that the PL failed to put any time or cost limit on the whole shebang, so there is no incentive whatsoever for the panel to do anything other than find some more 'i's to dot and 't's to cross ad infinitum.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Asking the question, as it’s well outside my area of expertise: is there any prospect this could have gone into arbitration mid-trial, and the fact of the arbitration could not lawfully be reported upon?

And if 1. is feasible, then it’s surely certain that there could be an embargo on any determination.
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I thought both parties need to agree arbitration and the finding then remain private? Mediation of sorts.

You could have well hit the nail on the head here.

A middle ground must be found for both city and the league to move forward. It’s a business after all.

I do think something happened last year with one side coming out of the dispute badly and now that side is forced to find some sort of deal.

Could the legal teams be cut out of arbitration? Instead direct communication between khaldoon and masters? Or whomever is pulling his strings? It would explain pep saying the result was nearly due…

Interesting.
 
wolviedinho said:
I thought both parties need to agree arbitration and the finding then remain private. Mediation of sorts.

You could have well hit the nail on the head here.

A middle ground must be found for both city and the league to move forward. It’s a business after all.

I do think something happened last year with one side coming out of the dispute badly and now that side is forced to find some sort of deal.

Could the legal teams be cut out of arbitration? Instead direct communication between khaldoon and masters? Or whomever is pulling his strings? It would explain pep saying the result was nearly due…

Interesting.
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cba looking it up!
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
cba looking it up!
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-:)

Well it’s a valid point as any on here, keeps things interesting.

To find answers, find the beneficiary. The league started a needless attack on one of its own clubs. Now the same accuser is acting as a lifeboat.

“You see what i’m doing? i’m eating the onion bhaji. why? because i am the man that makes the bhaji(115)go away”. - thick of it.


Greenland is the same. The tech companies want to make micro chips and take the supply from China. So trump causing mayhem threatening to attack and take over all the while when a deal is made to take Greenland’s rare resources to make AI while putting American troops on the ground for “safety” it will be seen as a victory. Everyone will be out waving flags and citing special relationships.

So many of trumps buddies have invested in Greenland’s metal industry and newspapers already.

It’s all a game.

anyway, back on topic. Butter was it this time? -:)
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
Asking the question, as it’s well outside my area of expertise: is there any prospect this could have gone into arbitration mid-trial, and the fact of the arbitration could not lawfully be reported upon?

And if 1. is feasible, then it’s surely certain that there could be an embargo on any determination.
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Let's see if you get treated with more respect for suggesting such a thing than other posters do :)
 
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