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I see a lot of videos online of people protesting in MN, and part of me thinks that it's great to see the pushback. But a much bigger part of me feels that the reaction to these incidents consistently comes across as relatively muted.

I don't know if it's because of fear or culture or what, or maybe I'm wrong and I'm just not looking in the right places. If that incident we saw yesterday happened in most European cities, that city would be on fire by now. Mark Duggan's death at the hands of police led to a week of riots and looting here (I'm not condoning or endorsing property damage by the way). They tried to move the pension age back in France by a few years and 450 protestors and 100 police officers were injured over the course of 4 months from constant protest. 100,000 people turned up in Budapest to March against Orban. 300,000 were in Belgrade last year on multiple occasions protesting their government.

But in the US the usual reaction is a few hundred people with signs - it always looks fairly sparse, they all go home. Some celebrities say how bad things are, the talk shows highlight the injustice and then everything just carries on as it was.

Like... where is the fucking white-hot rage? Am I way off base here?
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
I see a lot of videos online of people protesting in MN, and part of me thinks that it's great to see the pushback. But a much bigger part of me feels that the reaction to these incidents consistently comes across as relatively muted.

I don't know if it's because of fear or culture or what, or maybe I'm wrong and I'm just not looking in the right places. If that incident we saw yesterday happened in most European cities, that city would be on fire by now. Mark Duggan's death at the hands of police led to a week of riots and looting here (I'm not condoning or endorsing property damage by the way). They tried to move the pension age back in France by a few years and 450 protestors and 100 police officers were injured over the course of 4 months from constant protest. 100,000 people turned up in Budapest to March against Orban. 300,000 were in Belgrade last year on multiple occasions protesting their government.

But in the US the usual reaction is a few hundred people with signs - it always looks fairly sparse, they all go home. Some celebrities say how bad things are, the talk shows highlight the injustice and then everything just carries on as it was.

Like... where is the fucking white-hot rage? Am I way off base here?
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Been thinking exactly the same. Can only be fear?
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
I see a lot of videos online of people protesting in MN, and part of me thinks that it's great to see the pushback. But a much bigger part of me feels that the reaction to these incidents consistently comes across as relatively muted.

I don't know if it's because of fear or culture or what, or maybe I'm wrong and I'm just not looking in the right places. If that incident we saw yesterday happened in most European cities, that city would be on fire by now. Mark Duggan's death at the hands of police led to a week of riots and looting here (I'm not condoning or endorsing property damage by the way). They tried to move the pension age back in France by a few years and 450 protestors and 100 police officers were injured over the course of 4 months from constant protest. 100,000 people turned up in Budapest to March against Orban. 300,000 were in Belgrade last year on multiple occasions protesting their government.

But in the US the usual reaction is a few hundred people with signs - it always looks fairly sparse, they all go home. Some celebrities say how bad things are, the talk shows highlight the injustice and then everything just carries on as it was.

Like... where is the fucking white-hot rage? Am I way off base here?
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I think you are. The worst thing the public could do would be to start killing the ICE murderers as that is exactly what Trump wants to happen
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
I see a lot of videos online of people protesting in MN, and part of me thinks that it's great to see the pushback. But a much bigger part of me feels that the reaction to these incidents consistently comes across as relatively muted.

I don't know if it's because of fear or culture or what, or maybe I'm wrong and I'm just not looking in the right places. If that incident we saw yesterday happened in most European cities, that city would be on fire by now. Mark Duggan's death at the hands of police led to a week of riots and looting here (I'm not condoning or endorsing property damage by the way). They tried to move the pension age back in France by a few years and 450 protestors and 100 police officers were injured over the course of 4 months from constant protest. 100,000 people turned up in Budapest to March against Orban. 300,000 were in Belgrade last year on multiple occasions protesting their government.

But in the US the usual reaction is a few hundred people with signs - it always looks fairly sparse, they all go home. Some celebrities say how bad things are, the talk shows highlight the injustice and then everything just carries on as it was.

Like... where is the fucking white-hot rage? Am I way off base here?
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Because it's almost certain that Trump and his crowd are itching for that to happen so can invoke the insurrection act and send the military in. It's what he's angling for and it would be catastrophic.
 
mosssideblue said:
I think you are. The worst thing the public could do would be to start killing the ICE murderers as that is exactly what Trump wants to happen
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I'm not for a second advocating violence - I'm more just surprised by the lack of reaction. There are plenty of non-violent protest options available. General strikes... sit-ins...

This idea that Trump is trying to provoke a reaction so the people have no choice but to just sit there and take it is absolutely bizarre to me. It's not going away, the more incidents like this, the more ICE will be emboldened by the lack of consequences and boundaries.
 
bluejon said:
Because it's almost certain that Trump and his crowd are itching for that to happen so can invoke the insurrection act and send the military in. It's what he's angling for and it would be catastrophic.
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Trump isn’t hiding the fact that he knows he’s fucked if the mid terms go ahead and is actively looking for excuses to not hold them
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
I'm not for a second advocating violence - I'm more just surprised by the lack of reaction. There are plenty of non-violent protest options available. General strikes... sit-ins...

This idea that Trump is trying to provoke a reaction so the people have no choice but to just sit there and take it is absolutely bizarre to me. It's not going away, the more incidents like this, the more ICE will be emboldened by the lack of consequences and boundaries.
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I simply hope all involved are tried and imprisoned no matter how senior
 
bluejon said:
Because it's almost certain that Trump and his crowd are itching for that to happen so can invoke the insurrection act and send the military in. It's what he's angling for and it would be catastrophic.
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It might be the point at which the military stand up and refuse his illegal orders.
 
Dax777 said:
You people are so annoying with this 'right side of history' nonsense. Too many showing too little God damned sense!

What we are seeing here is partisan buffoonery. On both sides. To think is anything other, is just Foggy-foolery.
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@Dax777 this was you 6 years ago, was this murder still just "buffoonery"? Or perhaps everyone with half a brain saw these lawless times and lies coming
 
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