US & Israel attack Iran

There’s not a single person that’s openly supported this attack. The difference is, you and your mate are defending the Iranian regime, Islamic extremism and blaming the West and Israel for the entire shit, as per usual.

You’ve also mischaracterised several posts in a row, on purpose, calling people idiots for saying stuff, that they actually didn’t say.

The US government are cunts, the Israeli government are bigger cunts and Iranian government are also bigger cunts.

You and your pal only criticise two of them.
Lol. You'd have been in your early teens at the time believing this shite. No wonder you are pumping out facebook boomerslop in your 30's. Tragic.
 
Again, yes. How many is acceptable to those glorying in the killing in the leader?

Two countries acted without jurisdiction to kill the leader; if the others on the Bored of Peace knew details, they'll be viewed with suspicion too.

I can't see that it'll go well to have other countries tell Iranians how to run their country, and I don't see any chance that any other country will want to put any troops into the vast area, even if there are only a few heavily populated cities (Tehran is the size of London, with around 16m of the 92m people in the greater urban area).
Because the Iranians could just vote them out, couldn't they.

Meanwhile women, and all those who refused to accept the strict laws of the regime, would be left alone in peace, right? Iranians, themselves, sent out a call for help to the world. It was answered.

History shows that democratic revolution is often a very bloody affair and very hard won.

If Iran devolves into a 5 year civil war between the military, the tribes, the democrats and the Islamists and 1 million people die but the end result is a fair democracy is that acceptable?

What if the above happens and the rural folk who supported the Islamic republic win out and the result is another Islamic Republic?

I think we can all agree that Khameni had reached a level of oppression that made democratic revolution or even changing leaders impossible. We saw that 2 months ago, and it’s why I’ve not been against the idea of outside intervention, but I honestly have no idea if the right thing now is to let Iranians work it out for themselves on a level playing field between factions or if there’s a duty to impose secular democracy even if it’s not universally popular.


I guess in theory, a free democracy can evolve into any other kind of country. If you had free and fair elections someone could run on a platform of bringing back an Islamic theocracy, or a monarchy even, and so in that way it’s the best place to “reset” a country to.

One of the biggest problems of this not going through traditional international channels is that no one else is involved in the “what next?” Bit. At least in Iraq and Afghanistan we had dozens of countries around the world trying to form a consensus on what the right path was after the immediate deposing of the regime, and now it’s basically going to be decided in a room with only half a dozen decisions makers. And those decision makers are Jared Kushner, the Trumps, Netanyahu, Miller etc.


It will be very interesting to see what happens on the ground in Iran over the next 48h after Khamenis death is confirmed. I hope Israel and the US back off and see if Iranians themselves start deciding their own future because they can’t do that if they’re all hiding from foreign missiles and bombs.
 
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History shows that democratic revolution is often a very bloody affair and very hard won.

If Iran devolves into a 5 year civil war between the military, the tribes, the democrats and the Islamists and 1 million people die but the end result is a fair democracy is that acceptable?

What if the above happens and the rural folk who supported the Islamic republic win out and the result is another Islamic Republic?

I think we can all agree that Khameni had reached a level of oppression that made democratic revolution or even changing leaders impossible. We saw that 2 months ago, and it’s why I’ve not been against the idea of outside intervention, but I honestly have no idea if the right thing now is to let Iranians work it out for themselves on a level playing field between factions or if there’s a duty to impose secular democracy even if it’s not universally popular.


I guess in theory, a free democracy can evolve into any other kind of country. If you had free and fair elections someone could run on a platform of bringing back an Islamic theocracy, or a monarchy even, and so in that way it’s the best place to “reset” a country to.
Given the 60 years of oppression and the millions 'disaapeared' by this despotic regime, for a population that's into Western music, TikTok videos and calls for freedom from oppression?

You tell me. It's easy to say such nonsense when you haven't lived under that oppressive regime, isn't it. My heart and courage goes out to them all, hoping for a swift regime change that brings freedom to all.
 
Well it looks like he is really dead, if so the people have their chance. It’s up to them now.
So you think the death of an 86 year old despot moves the dial in terms of regime change?

Sounds like the ramblings of someone hooked on liberal interventionist propaganda to me.
 
Given the 60 years of oppression and the millions 'disaapeared' by this despotic regime, for a population that's into Western music, TikTok videos and calls for freedom from oppression?

You tell me. It's easy to say such nonsense when you haven't lived under that oppressive regime, isn't it. My heart and courage goes out to them all, hoping for a swift regime change that brings freedom to all.
Lol
 

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