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Will we win the league this season? No
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mancityscot
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We have to win, and West Ham have to get something against Arsenal otherwise that, as they say, is that.
It's basically west ham or bust unfortunately, they have relegated Burnley and palace 3 days before their conference final.We need to beat Brentford so as to keep Arsenal looking over their shoulders. They need to be aware that 1 slip from them & City pounce.
I'd suggest even a draw for west ham might not be good enough when you look at current goal difference and the situation of those 2 other teams.
We've only ourselves to blame, dropped a huge amount of points from winning positions because we started walking about the pitch after scoring the first goal and dropped too many against the bottom teams.
We also have to play 3 teams vying for CL/Euro qualification, albeit villa should be home and hosed by then. Tough ask on the back of our last 3 performances. But you never know I suppose.
C'est la vie
There is currently a GD of 4 in arsenals favour.It's basically west ham or bust unfortunately, they have relegated Burnley and palace 3 days before their conference final.
I'd suggest even a draw for west ham might not be good enough when you look at current goal difference and the situation of those 2 other teams.
If they were to draw against West Ham, they would have 2 games left to improve that.
We have 4 games so GD will be very close, if we are level on points come the end of the season.
Yes, but we play Brentford, Bournemouth, villa in those 4 games. All top sidesThere is currently a GD of 4 in arsenals favour.
If they were to draw against West Ham, they would have 2 games left to improve that.
We have 4 games so GD will be very close, if we are level on points come the end of the season.
Arsenal play a relegated Burnley and what is 100% going to be palaces B team with their final coming up 3 days later
Arsenal will most certainly end up with a better GD in my opinion. Delighted to be proven wrong, of course
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Yeah only way I see this happening is a West Ham win and we win all of our games.Yes, but we play Brentford, Bournemouth, villa in those 4 games. All top sides
Arsenal play a relegated Burnley and what is 100% going to be palaces B team with their final coming up 3 days later
Arsenal will most certainly end up with a better GD in my opinion. Delighted to be proven wrong, of course
No, its done. Everytime we have clawed our way back into contention we have fluffed our lines. If we had beaten Everton then yes but it was a shambles of a performance rescued only by a last gasp Doku strike. A draw just wasn't good enough. Drop points tomorrow against an in form Brentford and its absolutely over. As it is if you gave any team these three fixtures to win the title, West Ham, Burnley and Palace they'd bite your hand off. That's all a rejuvenated Arsenal, buyoud by reaching the champions league final have to do. They'll coast it from here.
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No, its done. Everytime we have clawed our way back into contention we have fluffed our lines. If we had beaten Everton then yes but it was a shambles of a performance rescued only by a last gasp Doku strike. A draw just wasn't good enough. Drop points tomorrow against an in form Brentford and its absolutely over. As it is if you gave any team these three fixtures to win the title, West Ham, Burnley and Palace they'd bite your hand off. That's all a rejuvenated Arsenal, buyoud by reaching the champions league final have to do. They'll coast it from here.
Can't disagree with any of that ..... our only chance now is to beat Brentford, preferably well, and hope Arsenal drop points in a game (or two) ... right now it's definitely Arsenal's title to lose.
I think it will be tight but that is only dependent on arsenal dropping points, of courseYes, but we play Brentford, Bournemouth, villa in those 4 games. All top sides
Arsenal play a relegated Burnley and what is 100% going to be palaces B team with their final coming up 3 days later
We need a good win tomorrow night to put the doubts into their minds.
Can't disagree with any of that ..... our only chance now is to beat Brentford, preferably well, and hope Arsenal drop points in a game or two ... right now it's definitely Arsenal's title to lose.
It's bloody frustrating because in spite of rebuilding our squad and Arsenal being lauded as the greatest team on the planet it was there for us to win it. January was the month that killed us. Draws to Sunderland, Brighton, Chelsea and then losing to the rags. Forgetting the rags game that was six points lost from the draws that would now have us a point ahead of Arsenal with a game in hand. That January malaise carried on to the 1st of February when we threw a two goal lead away at Spurs, before four straight victories including that magnificent Liverpool away victory. March was just as frustrating, draws to Forest and West Ham meant another four points dropped.
We did the business in April including the rip roaring victory against Arsenal to incredibly still have it in our own hands, only to fluff our lines again on Monday at Everton, another two points dropped. We've almost run out of games now to turn it around and even if we win them all Arsenal only have to win their three, against moderate opposition and the title is theirs. Our fixtures include in form Brentford and Bournemouth and Villa who are always a tough opponent.
We call Arsenal bottlers but looking at the games we've thrown points away since January , all from winning positions, Brighton, Forest, Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham and Everton we've bottled it outselves. That's TWELVE points which would now have us seven points ahead of Arsenal with a game in hand, as good as coasting to another title. Sure we are in transition and have players not used to this pressure and intensity but when we look back at the end of the season we will kick ourselves.
Obviously I'm still hoping for a miracle but sadly i fear we've run out of those now.
It not over until its mathematically not possible. If we can win our games and make it into the last game of the season then you never know what could happen.
For all the points we've dropped this season we're still in it which says a lot. It might seem unlikely at this point but maybe we could get some luck that has seemed to have deserted us this season.
For all the points we've dropped this season we're still in it which says a lot. It might seem unlikely at this point but maybe we could get some luck that has seemed to have deserted us this season.
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Unless we win the next two games that match is of little significance to us. Also, if we play like we did in our last two away games we will almost certainly lose but that is something to ponder on down the line.There is now a significant possibility of the 6th placed side getting a CL spot. Bournemouth are currently in 6th!
You can view this development positively or negatively. Bournemouth won't know then if Villa have won the Europa League but it is going to become a goal for them. It might be good for City if they feel they have to win the game.
I am not sure but it is something extra to consider perhaps closer to the time.
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Great analysis of the second half of the season which has not been worthy of champions. The fact that we still have an outside chance speaks volumes about how poor the quality has been this season. If we are to win it next season I would think we might need to be a hell of a lot better.It's bloody frustrating because in spite of rebuilding our squad and Arsenal being lauded as the greatest team on the planet it was there for us to win it. January was the month that killed us. Draws to Sunderland, Brighton, Chelsea and then losing to the rags. Forgetting the rags game that was six points lost from the draws that would now have us a point ahead of Arsenal with a game in hand. That January malaise carried on to the 1st of February when we threw a two goal lead away at Spurs, before four straight victories including that magnificent Liverpool away victory. March was just as frustrating, draws to Forest and West Ham meant another four points dropped.
We did the business in April including the rip roaring victory against Arsenal to incredibly still have it in our own hands, only to fluff our lines again on Monday at Everton, another two points dropped. We've almost run out of games now to turn it around and even if we win them all Arsenal only have to win their three, against moderate opposition and the title is theirs. Our fixtures include in form Brentford and Bournemouth and Villa who are always a tough opponent.
We call Arsenal bottlers but looking at the games we've thrown points away since January , all from winning positions, Brighton, Forest, Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham and Everton we've bottled it outselves. That's TWELVE points which would now have us seven points ahead of Arsenal with a game in hand, as good as coasting to another title. Sure we are in transition and have players not used to this pressure and intensity but when we look back at the end of the season we will kick ourselves.
Obviously I'm still hoping for a miracle but sadly i fear we've run out of those now.
The quality has been very poorGreat analysis of the second half of the season which has not been worthy of champions. The fact that we still have an outside chance speaks volumes about how poor the quality has been this season. If we are to win it next season I would think we might need to be a hell of a lot better.
arsenal could win a a double of champions league and Premier league.
A team that is nowhere like the recent PL winners in Chelsea, liverpool and ourselves.
The Champions league is as curious with top teams not up to it this season.
Brentford hardly in form. One win in seven in the PL since the end of February and their last two league wins have come against Burnley and West Ham. We should be beating them.No, its done. Everytime we have clawed our way back into contention we have fluffed our lines. If we had beaten Everton then yes but it was a shambles of a performance rescued only by a last gasp Doku strike. A draw just wasn't good enough. Drop points tomorrow against an in form Brentford and its absolutely over. As it is if you gave any team these three fixtures to win the title, West Ham, Burnley and Palace they'd bite your hand off. That's all a rejuvenated Arsenal, buyoud by reaching the champions league final have to do. They'll coast it from here.
Great analysis of the second half of the season which has not been worthy of champions. The fact that we still have an outside chance speaks volumes about how poor the quality has been this season. If we are to win it next season I would think we might need to be a hell of a lot better.
Thanks. It was painful going back through the fixtures we dropped points in and thinking what could have been. The Chelsea, Forest, Spurs and Brighton games were especially gutting. Chelsea conceeding a last gasp equaliser, Brighton and Forest we had enough chances to win even in the last seconds but failed. Spurs we should have been out of sight at halftime but bloody coasted and got punished. Those eight points alone would now have us sitting comfortably at the top of the table with a game in hand.
The West Ham game while frustrating i could almost understand as they were fighting for survival.. Everton away is never easy but our mistakes cost us.
Arsenal will be the poorest title winners for years if they get it over the line. My earlier post shows how bang average we've been but it's only with four games to go for us and three for them that they look like doing so. Of course they won't give a stuff it they win it and why should they? We certainly wouldn't and nor should they, but spare me the wankiing from the media at how fantastic they are because they're not.
Brentford hardly in form. One win in seven in the PL since the end of February and their last two league wins have come against Burnley and West Ham. We should be beating them.
Should is the word.....
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It is the hope that kills they say! I was elated after we beat Arse but less so after Burnley. Arsenal playing two games at home did for us, although Newcastle had two easy chances which could have made a difference.
I always knew Everton were not a given. They have become tough to beat but I did not see our defence going back to their pre Jan give aways!
For me its on this weekend. We need to win (forget goal difference though more would be better) and hope Arse drop points. If they win then for me they are home and dry!
I always knew Everton were not a given. They have become tough to beat but I did not see our defence going back to their pre Jan give aways!
For me its on this weekend. We need to win (forget goal difference though more would be better) and hope Arse drop points. If they win then for me they are home and dry!
It is the hope that kills they say! I was elated after we beat Arse but less so after Burnley. Arsenal playing two games at home did for us, although Newcastle had two easy chances which could have made a difference.
I always knew Everton were not a given. They have become tough to beat but I did not see our defence going back to their pre Jan give aways!
For me its on this weekend. We need to win (forget goal difference though more would be better) and hope Arse drop points. If they win then for me they are home and dry!
Agree with your post but should be hell for leather from us on Saturday, if West Ham get something it's probably a draw.
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I don’t think the Arsenal team is a good team, merely the best of a bad bunch.
I mean, fucking hell, they were/are on the cusp of bottling a 9 point lead under no pressure purely because their brand of football isn’t good. They’ve limped within touching distance of the finish line and if they do then fair play, but they are not a “good” side!
I mean, fucking hell, they were/are on the cusp of bottling a 9 point lead under no pressure purely because their brand of football isn’t good. They’ve limped within touching distance of the finish line and if they do then fair play, but they are not a “good” side!