Referees' Performances | 2025/26

How do they sort the mess out over set pieces which is affecting every game and the inordinate amount of time it takes for games to restart after a free kick is given?
Probably mentioned here, but an ex ref; Dunne I think, has suggested no players apart from keeper in 6 yard box b4 corner is taken, someone on here said imagine sorting out the collisions and fouls when everyone charges in……what’s next?, get rid of corners altogether and give a throw in near the corner flag instead?
Arsenal will win the league this season and we are hearing ex refs suggesting rule changes to the game that has been played for well over 100 years…
 
100% correct, that almost word for word what I said on the match thread. First of all any decision should have been based on the FIRST foul. Rice was pushing and pulling, then had both arms around his opponent long before the ball got anywhere near Raya.

We've seen goals chalked off countless times because of a foul in an "earlier phase of play"; there were several in that sequence. It's no defence to say referees don't give those, if it's a foul they should do and if we start to see a lot more penalties it would cut out a lot of this nonsense at corners.

Goalkeepers shouldn't get special protection either, they already have the advantage of being able to handle the ball.

Secondly it wasn't a clear and obvious error. The referee awarded the goal and VAR then replayed the Raya incident (without even bothering to look at anything else) over 30 times before asking the ref to go to the screen. The ref was then shown 17 replays. I said at the time that they were obviously looking for a reason to disallow it and Bowen said the exact same thing in his post match inverview.

But the point here is that if they have to review it that many times to decide whether a foul has taken place or not then it's not a clear and obvious error. You can resolve this fairly easily by saying that if they can't reach a decision within 30 seconds (and that's being generous), then the referees decision prevails.

The third issue for me is the referees' decision is final, but they're not refereeing the game any more. They're too frightened to give a big call, like a red card, in a big game and looking for VAR to back them up while for other issues like this one they're clearly being influenced by the VAR panel. If they're given a second chance to review the decision fine, but don't tell them what decision they should be reaching, let them watch the footage then decide for themselves. After all, that's their job isn't it?

PGMOL proving that their officials are not fit for purpose, possibly due to incompetence but more likely corruption, due to the number of "unusual" decisions they arrive at.

The PL and PGMOL are aligned perfectly to achieve whatever outcome they decide upon.
 
A few years ago at stoke away they gave 2 soft penalty's, one for stoke and one for city for defenders holding or grappling forwards,they stopped doing this ,and this is where we are now,give a pen and a booking and they will soon stop it.
Not true though is it. They announced it as a new directive at the start of that 16/17 season that any pulling at corners would be punished harshly, loads of penalties got given in the first few weeks of the season including in that game against Stoke, everyone agreed it was ridiculous, and we quietly went back to normal.
 
Probably mentioned here, but an ex ref; Dunne I think, has suggested no players apart from keeper in 6 yard box b4 corner is taken, someone on here said imagine sorting out the collisions and fouls when everyone charges in……what’s next?, get rid of corners altogether and give a throw in near the corner flag instead?
Arsenal will win the league this season and we are hearing ex refs suggesting rule changes to the game that has been played for well over 100 years…

They've exploited the laws to the detriment of the sport as a whole.

It's not how I would choose my team to win the league but we've been spoilt over the years. They've brought a whole new meaning to winning ugly.
 
PGMOL proving that their officials are not fit for purpose, possibly due to incompetence but more likely corruption, due to the number of "unusual" decisions they arrive at.

The PL and PGMOL are aligned perfectly to achieve whatever outcome they decide upon.
A different name on the trophy every xxx years Was it shaking Stevens who said that? #its about money
 
You've all gone off the fucking deep end.
Glad someone else said it.

It feels like all football discourse these days is just people throwing images of controversial decisions at each other until the next game comes around and then they get to throw more images of more controversial decisions at each other until the next game comes around and so on and so on.

If Arsenal had drawn/lost vs West Ham the only thing that would be any different this morning is that it would be Arsenal fans chucking images of the two Nunes/Schade incidents at City fans while Spurs fans chucked images at West Ham fans of soft goals they've had disallowed this season.

The solution is to return to the 70s TV set-up. Get rid of VAR, limit TV companies to having two cameras in each stadium - one for live broadcast, one from the opposite side for goal replays. That's it. Fans say they want football to be just about the game? Fine, let's completely close Pandora's box.

We are where we are because for 30-40 years TV companies got too forensic. They zoomed in on the minutiae of football and slowed the footage down and in doing so drew loads of attention to a massive grey area that they thought could be properly deciphered in order to bring about the "correct" outcome.

Turns out that even when you zoom in on a grey area and slow the footage down, it's still a grey area - where two completely opposing decisions could be completely correct. There's not much you can do beyond that point except zoom even further in and slow the footage down even more to reveal yet more grey.

This is the existential crisis football is facing, that we thought refereeing mistakes weren't part of the game or that mistakes didn't have to be part of the game, but it turns out they are and do. Football was better when it didn't have an omniscient agent of chaos hovering over the stadium, stopping its random moments.

VAR will never be able to overcome the biggest hurdle of all: fans believing that their team deserves to win more than the other team does and deserves to lose less than the other team does. All we've ended up doing with VAR's introduction is opening up a poisonous vortex that only heaps of tribalism can fall into.

Alright yeah, before VAR's introduction it was fair enough to hope it would clear things up. We tried, but it didn't work. Oh well. We've been at this for nearly a decade now, the sport is demonstrably worse off, the rules have had more tweaks since 2018 than they had in the 50 years previous. Just can it.

But if VAR does get binned off (it won't) can we please admit that fans - City fans among them - have become pathetically and pathologically hostile to any perceived slights or injustices and have fallen right in line with the capitalist conspiracy mindset of the money men who took the game away from us in the first place.
 
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The same Darren England who denied Chelsea 2 penakties v Arsenal. The same Darren England who denied us 2 penalties v Forest. The same ref who denied both Brighton and Bournemouth penalties v Arsenal.
PGMOL handed title.



That was one of the worst - a clear hold, and the ball hitting Rice's arm. No-one nearby so no excuse for not seeing it.

Somehow, I think both sets of fans are going to give him an earful on Saturday.
 
The pgmol could have nipped this in the bud at the start of the season by giving penalties and red cards for deliberate holding and stopping of goalscoring opportunities. They could have also started disallowing goals from set plays where keepers are impeded they didn't do either. They have really fecked up I'm certain they will make changes in the summer to try and make things better and fairer but the damage is done. And it's not just yesterday's decision this has been talked about all season and nothing has been done.
 
Arsenal have literally been handed this title on a plate

From the goal against United on opening day
To the handball against Newcastle in September not given as a penalty before an injury time winner
Gabriel not being set off against us or newcastle
The penalty not given to Everton in a 1-0 win
The penalty not given to Brighton in a 1-0 win
Every single set piece they are allowed to cheat

Couple that with the decisions against us
Dalot sending at at 0-0 in the derby
Foden penalty in Newcastle defeat
Bruno offside for the goal in the same Newcastle game
Kean red card against Everton in 3-3 draw

There’s a theme
They tell you it doesn’t affect the season as whole but VAR have influenced all these close call matches
I’ve been asked to mention to you Haalsnd’s nailed on penalty v Forest

I’d also add the headbutt on Haaland by Gabriel
 
Wanted to hold off before ranting about the West ham goal being chalked off.
Firstly. It is clearly a foul. Of that there is no doubt however there are 3 other potential fouls all by arsenal players.
Foul 1 - Trossard not facing the corner and holding onto Pablo, the player who eventually gave the foul which led to the goal being dissallowed.
Foul 2 - Declan Rice with both his arms around Mavripanos - A clear foul,not even a debate
Foul 3 - Gabriel shirt pull on Pablo. You have to look carefully.
Foul 4 - Pablo on Raya - Goal dissallowed.

So all of the above were in the same phase of the corner so to isolate the goalkeeping one is for me incorrect. It would have been correct had it been the only foul when the corner was coming over but it clearly wasn't.

Not 1 person can deny it was a foul on Raya, whoever you support. If that was Gigi I would say it is a foul but the simple fact is of the 4 fouls that occured,3 being Arsenal offences it leaves a bitter taste that the Raya one was deemed an offence worthy of changing the potential destination of the title and relegate West ham.

No - we haven't lost the league as a result of yesterdays result at West Ham. The points dropped at home to Chelsea, Brighton, Forest and away to Spurs and West Ham would probably have seen us home.
I am confident we will win it next year but fuck me the whole VAR,Refereeing debate in this country is turning a lot of people off the game

Look at how we have been refereed this season and some of the horrendous decisions that have gone against us and I am still adament that VAR is a tool being used to manipulate football results in this country. Nothing will change my opinion on this
Good effort ...,but there was no foul on the keeper ,imo
Not when trossard literally pushes the wham defender pablo into the arsenal keeper ,so defender is off balance ,and as a natural reaction ,puts his arm out to avoid losing balance and falling to the ground ....
Keeper comes rushing off his line to catch the ball,is imo,put off by the leap of a( arsenal ?)player in front of him,..and crashes into pablo

It's not a foul on the keeper as Pablo knows nothing about it ! No intention whatsoever,and it's not even reckless....he was literally shoved into the keeper !

Westham utd FC were robbed.
 
If one club gets more than 5 mins from var to find an angle or anything to disallow or allow a goal!

This puts another question mark on all games where var intervened?! Why didn’t all those clubs get the luxury of 5+mins of var? We had so many that they didn’t even go to var when there was big question marks on it..

Get rid of Var…


Goal line technology auto offside's should stay and also if a ball went out for a corner or not should be in there! Other than that the referees should do there fucking job instead of bottling every decision!
 
Good effort ...,but there was no foul on the keeper ,imo
Not when trossard literally pushes the wham defender pablo into the arsenal keeper ,so defender is off balance ,and as a natural reaction ,puts his arm out to avoid losing balance and falling to the ground ....
Keeper comes rushing off his line to catch the ball,is imo,put off by the leap of a( arsenal ?)player in front of him,..and crashes into pablo

It's not a foul on the keeper as Pablo knows nothing about it ! No intention whatsoever,and it's not even reckless....he was literally shoved into the keeper !

Westham utd FC were robbed.

Looks like they don’t care what’s going on in the box if the ball was going to land somewhere else
 

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