As has been discussed today at length on the relevant thread I think it is right to point out that as soon as the police got to the scene the killer’s father told them Henry was injured and the policeman also immediately identified he was hurt.I wasn't just the first one to speak at the scene that would have influenced the initial actions of the attending officer. The officers would have been primed by their dispatch officer prior to arrival, who would have given them a rundown of the situation, based on the details of the 999 call, which we now know to be a cruel fabrication.
Establishing the facts of any situation when you arrive on scene is often difficult at the best of time, and a whole lot worse in a high-pressure situation. It's a tragedy what happened, and the irony is that had the officers been taken more than a few minutes to arrive he would have already been dead, and this wouldn't even be a national news story.
I can see Ric doing another cleansingI’m not a Reform voter, can’t stand Farage, I’m just sick to fucking death of the left wing hypocrisy and your inability to admit there’s any sort of problem going the other way.
You’d rather the victims just shut up and go away so you can try and pretend there’s not an issue.
The socialist clique on this subforum are some of the most fragile minded people on the internet. If you can’t gang up, abuse and bully someone off the forum you want them removed, despite the fact I’ve not broken any rules.I can see Ric doing another cleansing
Let's talk about the latest £9m donations to his company (Reform).Let’s compare the response of this grifting, racist, misogynist piece of shit, not to a black American man murdered by a policeman in America but to a white British woman abducted, raped and murdered by UK policeman Wayne Couzens.
It was an horrific event and Couzens was sentenced to whole life in prison and will, hopefully, never get out,
After Couzens was convicted, the grifter issued yet another ‘address’ and said the following:
“We must not allow the tragic murder of a young woman turn into attacks on men and attacks on the police”
Not only that, he actively defended the police whilst urging the British public to stay calm and not to let this bad apples action poison the well of the police.
Compare and contrast his latest public utterances about 2 tier policing and then actually said
“The rest of us responded with pure, cold rage”
The desired riots and attacks on the police dutifully followed.
What could have motivated the grifter to have changed his approach from one senseless murder to another?
It can only be either the perpetrator of one was white and the other wasn’t or that one victim was a woman and one was a man. Sadly, it’s likely both of those things are true.
Still, nobody is asking him about £5 million anymore…
He didn't really say anything new in his Commons speech. Just doubled down and said the rage would grow. You defended the first cold rage comment that - guess what - led to the usual right-wing attacks on the police.Bollocks have you read my posts on him calling him a **** and criticising his commons speech. You’re no longer in your echo chamber, people will disagree with you.
We’ve already been over this, you sent me his commons speech and asked me to comment, I gave my view on it then and why refusing to condemn the violence was a mistake, you didn’t say anything at the time when I responded to you.He didn't really say anything new in his Commons speech. Just doubled down and said the rage would grow. You defended the first cold rage comment that - guess what - led to the usual right-wing attacks on the police.
Irrelevant to the death of Henry Nowak.The Alex Jay inquiry in 2014 literally stated on a significant number of occasions victims weren’t believed, ignored, failed because of the races of the perpetrators and the victims.
The 2025 review by Louise Casey concluded that authorities had often “shied away” from discussing offender ethnicity and that fears of appearing racist contributed to failures in data collection and investigation. It found evidence of over-representation of Asian/Pakistani suspects in some local datasets while also noting that national ethnicity data was often incomplete.
Victims have argued that predominantly white working-class girls were dismissed as unreliable, troublesome, or responsible for their own exploitation. Official reports repeatedly found victim-blaming attitudes and class prejudice.
This is all official literature from the reviews taken.
Now what do you say?
And "neighbours heard Nowak say he had been stabbed and was dying" but it seems they didn't call 999.I think the reason he wasn't believed was -
- Police went in with a preconceived idea of the disturbance they would find. They weren't called to a stabbing.
- There was no clear sign he'd been stabbed. The bleeding was almost all internal and there was no weapon around.
- They were met with an organised conspiracy by an entire family denying there was a stabbing with a story that confirmed what they were told they were going to find on arrival.
I think the Police were negligent, I'm just yet to see any evidence offered that race was a factor in him not being believed as Farage claims.
No it’s not, it shows the police have a history of over correction and reverse racism, that many people think has been a significant factor in how Henry Nowak was treated.Irrelevant to the death of Henry Nowak.
Tale as old as time though, Hitler just happened to be particularly successful at it. Anger is a powerful manipulator.I’ve just finished listening to the audiobook ‘The Second World War’ by Anthony Beevor.
The early chapters detail the rise of the far right & Hitler in the 1930’s.
What struck me and honestly depressed me as I listened, was how much farage sounds like Hitler did in the 1930’s. Some of the phrases and certainly the rhetoric, were depressingly very similar.
How anyone can view farage as anything other than a racist scumbag, is beyond me.
The thought occurred to me more than once, that we really have learned nothing.
Tale as old as time though, Hitler just happened to be particularly successful at it. Anger is a powerful manipulator.
Fear and anger were indeed the tools of Hitler and now trump. farage is doing the same.
farage was exposed as a no nowt liar the morning after the brexit result & couldn’t back track fast enough on the ‘assurances’ that brexit would be the answer to all the UK’s problems. I thought that would be the end of him, but here we are again, giving this scumbag way too much airtime & treating him as a serious politician, when he has no idea how to actually solve things like immigration. He will say he will do x, y & z, but it’s easy to promise anything when you don’t actually have the power or plans, or, more importantly, the co-operation of multiple other nations, to deliver on those promises. If immigration control was easy, then the current & previous governments would have solved it too. It’s not an ideological problem, it’s an actual problem, which affects millions of actual people in numerous countries around the world. farage is a snake oil salesman who would say and do anything, at the expense of everyone, to get in power and then make as much money as possible.
I agree, but one thing i find completely shocking on a daily basis is the viciousness towards starmer, reeves and labour from the majority of the press, that started from day one. i'm not surprised people think nothing of them, they are constantly being told from all sides that they are complete traitors who are only on the take. regardless of starmer's faults, and there's definitely been many (the national insurance thing has been a disaster) but they are nothing like as bad as the previous crowd, yet the vitriol is off the scale. Just look at the difference as to how Angela Raynor has been treated compared to Tice when it comes to tax issues. And just imagine it turned out that Starmer had been gifted £5million from a private source, clearly has lied repeatedly about how he pays for his house etc. Night and day. The press are significantly to blame for where we are. Weirdly, twitter is helping a bit right now. The fact Musk thinks Lowe is an even remotely credible candidate for PM just shows what a thick fucking idiot he is.All i can say on him is if folk are that desperate to turn to him as some kind of savour then then Labour and the Conservatives should hang there heads in shame for allowing it to happen ..........
Why is it shocking?I agree, but one thing i find completely shocking on a daily basis is the viciousness towards starmer, reeves and labour from the majority of the press, that started from day one. i'm not surprised people think nothing of them, they are constantly being told from all sides that they are complete traitors who are only on the take. regardless of starmer's faults, and there's definitely been many (the national insurance thing has been a disaster) but they are nothing like as bad as the previous crowd, yet the vitriol is off the scale. Just look at the difference as to how Angela Raynor has been treated compared to Tice when it comes to tax issues. And just imagine it turned out that Starmer had been gifted £5million from a private source, clearly has lied repeatedly about how he pays for his house etc. Night and day. The press are significantly to blame for where we are. Weirdly, twitter is helping a bit right now. The fact Musk thinks Lowe is an even remotely credible candidate for PM just shows what a thick fucking idiot he is.
Why is it shocking?
Jonathan Freedland in the Guardian had a nice summary. "Even his critics concede that his record-breaking unpopularity seems out of proportion to anything he has actually done... it's not like he has started an illegal war or crashed the economy."
no worse than the Labour Party and their left wing moron followers!Just to finish the day, Farage and his blind followers are cunts!
Fair point. It should be, but it's normal.Why is it shocking?
The women are fitter at our discos.no worse than the Labour Party and their left wing moron followers!