Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

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FanchesterCity said:
United's front entrance / Matt Busby way is pretty impressive (imo), but the rest of it clearly shows years of upgrades upon upgrades and looks pretty poor all in all. Yes, it's a large stadium, but in reality, it's far from a great stadium (architecturally). Inside (concourse) it's typical of most grounds, further inside, it's pretty impressive as an empty stadium, but the seating is cramped to say the least.

We simply have a far more impressive stadium in terms of design and build, but you'd expect that with a modern stadium. By that measure, the Reebok (as was) is a 'better' stadium than Old Trafford.

It would be churlish to deny that Old Trafford isn't about ergonomics. A lot of history lies there, and it's impressively large.

I still feel City could improve the external appearing of the stadium to be more in line with the modern look of the rest of the campus, but it's a minor point really.

It's horses for courses really - Some like Villa Park (or certainly the steps leading up to it), and some like Fulham for the old feel... but we have a modern stadium, and I feel it should reflect a modern thinking club too. That's not to ditch the rest of our history, but simply mark where we've 'been' in contrast to where we are now, and where we're heading.
Tarting up the outside to reflect the slick / polished feel of our club would be a fine move imo.
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The bigger problem for united and OT isnt so much the general seating and concourse but the quality of the corporate offering.

They are about a decade or more behind in how they shmooze, wine and dine and most of their corporate stuff is not much roomier and special than City's normal level two offering.

I used to go to OT often as part of a corporate requirement and even the clients at the time used to make mooing noises when herded to the food and bars.

If you will forgive me a rather broad generalisation here City are Sainsbury through M and S to Selfridges food hall whilst united are Iceland, through Tesco to Sainsbury.
 
CC1 said:
Not sure I agree. The modern stadium, huge concourse and the linked Training ground & smaller stadium, not to mention the comfort factor (i.e. not packed in like sardines) makes our stadium far more impressive than the swamp.
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I disagree
 
bellbuzzer said:
Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Threa

regarding players making the jump to the first team, the lads who are in their late teens now are from a different era of scouting compared to say, the fifteen year olds. By the time these younger players are pushing twenty, we will know if the system is doing the business, or needs to be looked at, be it the scouting or coaching. Barcelona have been the club that people use as the pinnacle of youth development, personally i believe Ajax have been successful for a lot longer. If we cherry pick the best methods from both then the Academy is going to succeed imho. Whether the lads coming through are English is a matter for the future, the national set-up for pre-teens is nowhere near the level of Spain, Germany or France. The noises coming from the FA are like politician's sound bites, no substance all hot air.
Finding a Messi or Kun or Silva is largely dependent on luck, all you can do is look for potential, nurture that potential and hope for the best. The pit-falls are many, lads fall by the wayside for lots of reasons besides football skills. Some just don't have the drive and determination to be as good as they can be, some lack courage, some don't develop the football intelligence you need at the highest level. Some are quite happy to tread water, happy with the financial rewards that fall to even modest players. When a club lets a player go, it can trigger a response or not, either way it is a waste of much time and money on the club's part . An academy is an expensive investment/gamble but the rewards can be priceless.
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Great post.
 
what I haven't seen anyone pick up on yet from that periscope/youtube video is how BIG the third tier concourse is - it's massively better than the crushzone that is the third tier concourse on the sides and in face actually looks deeper than the second tier concourse elsewhere in the ground
 
FanchesterCity said:
United's front entrance / Matt Busby way is pretty impressive (imo),
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Eh? The main entrance is in that gloomy concrete tunnel under the South stand, it's no wonder Sneijder still hasn't signed.
DiscoSteve said:
what I haven't seen anyone pick up on yet from that periscope/youtube video is how BIG the third tier concourse is - it's massively better than the crushzone that is the third tier concourse on the sides and in face actually looks deeper than the second tier concourse elsewhere in the ground
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Isn't that mainly because the SS third tier had to be deeper than the side stands because it holds more or less the same number of seats in a narrower width? Hence more room underneath for a bigger concourse.
 
Corner update

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They've also removed the old turnstyle wall in preparation for the new one.

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Interesting.

If a bid is successful, I wonder if the current athletics stadium next to the Etihad stadium can be expanded, even though it's a very tight site? If not, perhaps a new athletics stadium on the Etihad Campus, with the current one being demolished/replaced.

European Games: Manchester show interest in being 2023 hosts
By David McDaid - BBC Olympic sports reporter

Manchester may bid to host the 2023 European Games, says European Olympic Committee president Patrick Hickey.

The inaugural Games in Azerbaijan end on Sunday with no host for 2019, after the Netherlands withdrew.

"The future is safe and secure. We now have four interested countries for the next edition and a waiting list for 2023," Hickey told BBC Sport.

"In fact, observers from Manchester came to Baku with a view to considering a bid in 2023."

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The site of a possible new and much larger athletics stadium. With a new stadium built/located at a different angle, meaning the current indoor squash courts, etc, would have to be relocated. The circle is a bit large.

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jrb said:
The site of a possible new and much larger athletics stadium. With a new stadium built/located at a different angle, meaning the current indoor squash courts, etc, would have to be relocated. The circle is a bit large.
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The Eastlands Regeneration Framework document suggests that the ultimate plan is to relocate the athletics stadium eventually, freeing up that land north and west of the stadium for commercial use. Beswick Hub was the suggested location, though that could change, I suppose.
 
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