City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

moomba said:
On the face of it, seems FFP is finished except you have to ask permission from Gill/Rummenige first and have a short term plan to get back into the black.

Thats my trusting persona's perspective of it anyway. The flapper/cynic in me says Gill/Rummenige will find a way.
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The law is what's stopping them and it will continue to stymie them whatever their true motivations. Power-crazed pricks they might be; above the law they are not.

Btw, City should ignore them just as surely as the uefa snivlling coyotes are currently ignoring the court.
 
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aguero93:20 said:
That PSG news is good for us if true.
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It's great news.

Sadly, I think we would have preferred to have kept our own situation in-house until we had finished business.

Paris, are in a slightly different situation, in respect they don't need as much of an influx of top quality and homegrown additions as ourselves, so wanted to let it be known they are free.

Shit happens, we can afford it (and some)

And they still have the drawback of playing in the French league.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
M. Dupont and Stuart Brennan have shown the bare faced nerve and brass necked stupidity of UEFA's latest lurch along the pathe to financial regulation of European club football. The last vestiges of any tenuous claim to "fair" play were gleefully tossed into the dustbin by a simpering, smarmy French ignoramus and a greasy Italian knucklehead as they announced the "relaxation" of the regulations - what Manchester City and PSG have been hammered for, what last year was ruining football and calling down the thunderbolts of that old Bavarian soak in Munich is now perfectly acceptable for Berlusconi and his "investor"in Milan. But not for anyone else, because any new owner, or old one, must have his investment plans agreed by the failed investment banker and financial nullities entrusted with such matters by the dwarfs of Noyon. And they have as much chance of being allowed to rival the "established elite" as Khaldoon does of being invited to chair the FFP committee. We know have a situation in which the investment policies of every football club in Europe are to be decided not by those who own the club and pay the bills but by a group of bureaucrats who have no responsibility for any European club at all and who risk not one centime of their own. The ECJ will love that! Maybe M. Platini will enlighten us as to where such measures have any legal basis at all. He will find that M. Dupont has by far the best of the argument on this one.

Along with any pretence of fairness any pretence of equality and uniformity has been thrown out. The same rules do not apply to all. Milan can do this year what City could not last. Some owners may be allowed to invest: City and PSG may not. City agreed a deal with UEFA, but for the second time UEFA changed the rules. If City's instinct just over twelve months ago was to fight UEFA through every avenue open to it that must surely be its instinct if UEFA gets in the way of its plans now.

That is the question: just what effect, if any, will these measures have on City? M. Dupont will win his case, and Platini knows this. UEFA are, as M. Dupont says, playing for time, spinning out the case and then any claim for damages from his clients so that maximum damage is done and the victory is rendered hollow as was Bosman's. The issue is how much damage he can do to City in the meantime. If City decide they have to ignore the regulations and end up expelled from the CL they will have no choice but to seek injunctions and take UEFA to court. For City time would be the major factor: UEFA would pay a heavy price financially for losing. If, on the other hand, City's income enables them to buy the players they want... We are back to sponsorship deals and partnerships for the CFA and new money from TV. And this is the most illogical element of these crazy regulations. Having sung the Rumenigge anthem that the more successful clubs who develop acceptable revenue streams can spend more we are now told that it you are unsuccessful, if your income from TV is low, if no-one wants to atch you on the TV then you can spend more, with UEFA's permission. Come in Milan, are you reading us!

So M. Platini has shown us exactly why for so long he was the protege of that pillar of financial fair play, M. Sepp Blatter. UEFA does not behave like a governing body of the world's most popular sport, but just like a group of corrupt megalomaniacs in hoc to a few privileged clubs. But the day of judgement cannot be postponed indefinitely.
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This forum's best poster on this issue.
 
Big Yaya Wilko 12 said:
What is everyone thinking regarding this PSG thing?

DO we think that we're going to comply or are we being actually, and absolutely, singled out by FFP this time?
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I'll give you a clue. One club plays its domestic football in the French league, which has little global appeal, contains none of Europe's self-styled old guard, elite clubs, and is therefore of no real threat to anyone's income streams. The other plays in the most competitive and widely watched league in world football, a league awash with the eternally entitled, and every season actively deprives one of those clubs (at the moment it's Candlepool) of something in the region of £50m a year. They will try and fuck us - and us alone, if humanly possible - in whatever way possible, without any sense of embarrassment. They are cnuts.
 
aguero93:20 said:
That PSG news is good for us if true.
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I'd say it's another bad example of UEFA bias.

PSG didn't negotiate their release from restriction into their settlement agreement with UEFA last year like we did, but UEFA have still let them off for this summer anyway. Would they have done the same for us?

Either way, another massive rival has just entered the party for Pogba/Sterling/De Bruyne et al.
 
waspish said:
Psg ffp FREE Manchester City for to wait 3 years!
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Waiting for the official outcome from UEFA and City's stance, our chairman was confident that we would be free fro any further sanctions in the end of season review he gave to the official website, if comes to pass that City face further restrictions on spending then I will cancel my UEFA cup scheme as that shower are not getting a single penny more of me, would be great if the stadium was less than half full for a Champions a League games with rest of us fans protesting in City Square during the games. Don't know how other fans feel but I'm fast loosing interest in the Champions Leauge and don't trust Plattini ant more than Sep Blatta. The only reason City don't tell them to stick there compitition up their arses is that the worlds best players won't be interesting in coming to a club not in Europe
 
I have to say that the owners, and in particular, the Chairman, a servant of the owners, have have shown incredible control and a keen business sense in not responding to what is now becoming clear to even the most partisan dipstick, is, a frenzied desire to stop this football club competing with their chosen few.
Khaldoon is one cool fucker, but I bet his bite is deadly.
 
Stop flapping.
CITY are in profit for all FFP related transactions last season.
AS SUCH CITY HAVE ALL FFP SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT RESTRICTIONS LIFTED FOR THE 2015-16 SEASON AND THE PRECEDING TRANSFER WINDOW
So we can spend between £150m-£200m on transfer fees (depending on what we get in sales) and not get into trouble with UEFA's FFP Kangaroo court.
The only problem we have is the Premier League version of FFP where the rise in wages can't be more than the rise in Commercial and Gate revenue as you can't use the rise in TV money to pay player wages. As I read it, you can use the TV money to buy players though
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Stop flapping.
CITY are in profit for all FFP related transactions last season.
AS SUCH CITY HAVE ALL FFP SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT RESTRICTIONS LIFTED FOR THE 2015-16 SEASON AND THE PRECEDING TRANSFER WINDOW
So wee can spend between £150m-£200m on transfer fees (depending on what we get in sales) and not get into trouble with UEFA's FFP Kangaroo court.
The only problem we have is the Premier League version of FFP where the rise in wages can't be more than the rise in Commercial and Gate revenue as you can't use the rise in TV money to pay player wages. As I read it, you can use the TV money to buy players though
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Wonderful, FFP will strangle itself.
 
Disappointing if PSG escape mind.
Especially as UEFA stated that they were still under sanction back in May.
 
How glorious it will be when due to FFP going as clubs desperately try to keep up with us and PSG want rid all of a sudden, a few will no doubt go tits up due to spending money they just dont have lol.

Hopefully the 2 Milan clubs are first in the fucking queue!
 
BlueAnorak said:
Disappointing if PSG escape mind.
Especially as UEFA stated that they were still under sanction back in May.
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Why? The changes announced would have seen them escape punishment if retrospectively applied, why shouldn't they have their sanctions lifted?
 
Big Yaya Wilko 12 said:
So, we're not under restriction anymore?
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Correct.
- Chairman Khaldoon said so in his message to the Sky Blue Nation.
- We were not on the UEFA list of clubs currently under sanction published in May (whereas PSG were).
- The UEFA FFP FAQ page item 17 says we aren't if we're in profit on FFP transactions.

Why anyone believe anybody else's word against Chairman Khaldoon's is beyond me.
 
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