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FanchesterCity said:
You can't say 'if he's worth 45m, then he's worth 50m' otherwise if he's worth 50m, he's worth 55m, then 60m.

If he's worth 45m, he's worth 45m.
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but our first bid was £25m plus £5m add ons so does that mean he's only worth £30m? or is he worth £40m like our second bid suggests? or £45m? this is all very confusing.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Why do people keep saying we 'should do this' & 'should do that' when they don't know what we are or aren't doing ?

It's bizarre.
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Posting to faceless strangers on the web is a bit bizarre too! I suppose it's just passing time really.
I know people start sentences with 'we should be...' but it's just a turn of phrase really. We're all just spouting personal opinion at the end of the day, some a bit whackier than others, but it passes a bit of time, and avoids mowing the lawn!
 
FanchesterCity said:
You can't say 'if he's worth 45m, then he's worth 50m' otherwise if he's worth 50m, he's worth 55m, then 60m.

If he's worth 45m, he's worth 45m.
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Exactly.

And if the club thinks hes worth no more than £45m I'm pleased for tgem to do what they can to barter Liverpool down to that amount.
 
moomba said:
Only works if he eventually comes I'm afraid.
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Seeing as we've already bid for Sterling, twice, we've been prepared to have the signing done for quite a while and thus prepared to pay him during his holidays so I don't see how it works now either.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
but our first bid was £25m plus £5m add ons so does that mean he's only worth £30m? or is he worth £40m like our second bid suggests? or £45m? this is all very confusing.
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We don't know what City's real valuation is. The rest yes, is a bit of drama and posturing on both sides. Just like when we go car buying, We know our budgets in our head, but we lie to the salesman, and he lies to us, until finally we're still lying to each other, but think we've lied the best to get the best deal! You drive home telling the wife you drove an incredibly hard bargain, and he's counting his commission saying exactly the same.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
but our first bid was £25m plus £5m add ons so does that mean he's only worth £30m? or is he worth £40m like our second bid suggests? or £45m? this is all very confusing.
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We have an upper limit of what we're prepared to pay. We try and get him cheaper, but once we pass that upper limit we walk.
 
pudge said:
Seeing as we've already bid for Sterling, twice, we've been prepared to have the signing done for quite a while and thus prepared to pay him during his holidays so I don't see how it works now either.
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If we bought him on July 1st we would have paid him a few hundred thousand in wages while he was on holidays.
 
You don't miss out on one of your top targets for the sake of £5 million IMO.

If we were miles away from Liverpools valuation then fair enough but not when we are so close.
 
moomba said:
If we bought him on July 1st we would have paid him a few hundred thousand in wages while he was on holidays.
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It sort of counts double that... let's say a player is on 1m per month, then City are saving 1m during a month long negotiation and Liverpool are paying 1m. That's a 2m swing. City could raise their bid by 1m, and Liverpool lower theirs by 1m simply to save time on day one! Although there's a slight caveat.. the longer it drags on, the more it's costing Liverpool and the less it's costing us ;-)
 
citytill1die84 said:
How much are u paying towards it again?
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I'm all for signing the boy even at 50m he would be superb for us I'm just looking further beyond the fee unlike most as to why it might be a big deal for the club when you take into account the full package but for me get the kid signed.
 
As much I want us to get this deal done I'm also irked by Liverpools insistence to never budge. We have already shown that we are willing to shift a little more to get this deal done but they seem to be very arrogant (I don't mean to take a dig at them) as if they hold all the cards. They certainly don't and that's why I started to ask, is Marco Reus unavailable this summer? What if he signed a new contract to help his club out and awaits the right deal before he moves on? Have we at least tried to get him signed? Is there any other way we can achieve HG the requirement without Sterling? What about Isco? Is he unavailable? Can we poach him for the right price? Maybe these thoughts are unpopular but I sincerely think there's better out there for us if only we dared to try.
 
FanchesterCity said:
It sort of counts double that... let's say a player is on 1m per month, then City are saving 1m during a month long negotiation and Liverpool are paying 1m. That's a 2m swing. City could raise their bid by 1m, and Liverpool lower theirs by 1m simply to save time on day one! Although there's a slight caveat.. the longer it drags on, the more it's costing Liverpool and the less it's costing us ;-)
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× that by 3 with DeBruyne, Sterling & Pogba & the senior City players haven't even started pre season yet.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
You don't miss out on one of your top targets for the sake of £5 million IMO.

If we were miles away from Liverpools valuation then fair enough but not when we are so close.
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Did you pay more for your house than you thought it was worth? because you might miss out on it?
You might have paid more than the asking price to secure it, but only to the point you personally believed it was 'worth it'. That's the whole point. If that figure goes too high, eventually the balance tips, and you say 'we really love the house, but that IS our limit - sorry'.
If the house was up for 100K and you paid 110K because you loved it so much and wanted to grab it, then 100K wasn't your limit was it? 110K was. If the seller wanted 120K, you would probably say 'nah, that really IS too much'.

If you really loved a car, and a salesman knew it, he'd exploit that and you'd end u paying more than you needed to, but that's ok as long as you're happy to pay it. But at SOME point, as much as you wanted it, if you thought he was taking the piss, you'd say no right? That's our whole point. We don't know what that limit is for City, but if it's 45m, and Liverpool take the piss with 50m we have to say no. It's not 5m we're happy to pay, it's 5m well above the tipping point for us.

As I say, we don't know the actual figures, it's the principle of 'oh go on, be a mug and let us rip you off for more because you REALLY REALLY want this player'.
 
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Can't we just throw in Jovetic, who they supposedly fancy, as a sweetener, and tell the "victims" to piss off home and stop, the fuck, crying for once in their miserable lives.
 
Some say we tried (and with Dzeko too) but wasn't possible (either Liverpool didn't want, or the players didn't want).
They want the cash as they like to waste it all on their own.
 
FanchesterCity said:
It sort of counts double that... let's say a player is on 1m per month, then City are saving 1m during a month long negotiation and Liverpool are paying 1m. That's a 2m swing. City could raise their bid by 1m, and Liverpool lower theirs by 1m simply to save time on day one! Although there's a slight caveat.. the longer it drags on, the more it's costing Liverpool and the less it's costing us ;-)
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Liverpool will be paying him a fraction of what we're offering him, plus they will deduct pay and fine him for not attending training etc.
 
moomba said:
If we bought him on July 1st we would have paid him a few hundred thousand in wages while he was on holidays.
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And given that we've tried to sign him twice then that's not by design. I imagine, again because we've tried to sign him twice, that the club were willing to do that.

It's not by choice or shrewd business.
 
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