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Rony Lopes
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supercity88
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Sell Nasri to help fund Pogba. Play Lopes in Nasri's place.
dannybcity
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Lopes looks to get forward at every opportunity. He's a risk taker who might have poorer possession stats than the other two, but that will be down to the safety first approach of the others.
Compared to Nasri who slows the game right down and constantly looks to score the perfect goal. And Navas who would rather turn back and pass to the full back when in a promising position than beat a man or put a first time cross in.
I just think you're being a little harsh on Navas and Nasri there. Whilst I agree that Lopes is direct he's made just a handful of first team appearances. Nasri in particular is a fantastic footballer (on his day) and although there are question marks regarding his attitude his contribution to our success often seems to be overlooked.
Lopes has only had one full but inconsistent season as a professional. The likes of Nasri and Navas have more games under their belts and have achieved more in their careers and are probably "in tune" in what Pellegrini wants from his attacking players. If Lopes is impatient and not taking on board what the current manager wants and is refusing to sign a new deal, then he isn't the right type of player imo.
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Lopes has only had one full but inconsistent season as a professional. The likes of Nasri and Navas have more games under their belts and have achieved more in their careers and are probably "in tune" in what Pellegrini wants from his attacking players. If Lopes is impatient and not taking on board what the current manager wants and is refusing to sign a new deal, then he isn't the right type of player imo.
IMO Lopes needs at least 2 more seasons on loan before getting into the first team.
IMO Lopes needs at least 2 more seasons on loan before getting into the first team.
If he is refusing to sign a new deal at City, then the only option is to cash in.
Give him a shot, I think given the chance he would be better than navas.
what's the harm in playing young talent while our senior players get their shit together.
Don't get me wrong I am for giving younger players a chance but Is Lopes 482 apperances, 41 goals and 101 assists better than Navas?
How is he supposed to get those if he doesn't play? It's a completely false arguament. We may as well start Pele if that's the way of judging people. Navas and Nasri have both been here, playing inconsistent football for two years under Pellegrini (with Nasri having 2 inconsistent years under Mancini before that), I don't see anything to say we shouldn't give Lopes a chance to prove he can do better than that.Don't get me wrong I am for giving younger players a chance but Is Lopes 482 apperances, 41 goals and 101 assists better than Navas?
Don't get me wrong I am for giving younger players a chance but Is Lopes 482 apperances, 41 goals and 101 assists better than Navas?
He has offered more in half the playing time so far in pre season, but I think from what is being said its not a Navas or lopes scenario but more Nasri could be used as a makeweight in a Pogba deal and lopes fill the hole left behind by Nasri.
He has offered more in half the playing time so far in pre season, but I think from what is being said its not a Navas or lopes scenario but more Nasri could be used as a makeweight in a Pogba deal and lopes fill the hole left behind by Nasri.
And that could be down to not completely taking on board what Pellegrini is expecting. He maybe a lot of things but he does know his attacking players.
And that could be down to not completely taking on board what Pellegrini is expecting. He maybe a lot of things but he does know his attacking players.
If Rony had a problem taking on board what pellegrini wanted then he would of already known this 2 years ago before his loan, especially when he played him in a cup semi final and he got man of the match!
How is he supposed to get those if he doesn't play? It's a completely false arguament. We may as well start Pele if that's the way of judging people. Navas and Nasri have both been here, playing inconsistent football for two years under Pellegrini (with Nasri having 2 inconsistent years under Mancini before that), I don't see anything to say we shouldn't give Lopes a chance to prove he can do better than that.
Pellegrini gave the likes of Isco, Cazorla chances.
If Rony had a problem taking on board what pellegrini wanted then he would of already known this 2 years ago before his loan, especially when he played him in a cup semi final and he got man of the match!
Lopes is coming back from a promising but yet inconsistent season.
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Sell Nasri to help fund Pogba. Play Lopes in Nasri's place.
Nasri doesn't have a place in the team - particularly if KDB signs - which makes it an ideal spot in the squad for Lopes.
Meanwhile Nasri is still a £20m asset that can be used elsewhere, even in a Pogba deal perhaps.
I know its not his thread, but I don't really see where Nasri fits into a 433? Not quick enough for one of the wide, forward positions, and the only central position he could play is the furthest forward of the 3, which Silva, Yaya and maybe even KDB and Sterling provides more than enough options for.
The amount of games I envisage Nasri playing this season is an appropriate number for a player of Lopes' stature.
Nasri last season played 29 games in total scoring 3 goals and was basicly behind Silva, Navas and Milner, Rony played 27 games and scored 3 goals and if he replaced Nasri this season would be 4 choice I don't see why he couldn't replace what Nasri has offered us!
Nasri last season played 29 games in total scoring 3 goals and was basicly behind Silva, Navas and Milner, Rony played 27 games and scored 3 goals and if he replaced Nasri this season would be 4 choice I don't see why he couldn't replace what Nasri has offered us!
And Nasri's season had been hampered by injuries and who had played a part in our last title winning season.
And Nasri's season had been hampered by injuries and who had played a part in our last title winning season.
The same could be said for Rony he was hit by injuries for 2-3 months due to being rushed back too quickly because he was instrumental to the Lille team and the Lille fans were comparing him to Eden Hazard.
Pellegrini gave the likes of Isco, Cazorla chances.
I think that argument is a little irrelevant these days tbh. He's at a bigger club with bigger expectations and loads more media attention, bigger resources and lots of star names. Not a club that couldn't afford to play its players for about six months where he had to make do with what he had at one point.
Plus, he's likely leaving in a year. Why would he give a fuck about promoting a kid? Not really buying it that he'll have a long term view here, which he would have had at Malaga to an extent as his rep was being built again post Real.
The same could be said for Rony he was hit by injuries for 2-3 months due to being rushed back too quickly because he was instrumental to the Lille team and the Lille fans were comparing him to Eden Hazard.
In his rare good games for us last season Nasri played a part in getting us a result in Rome.
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