In a 433, Lopes could come off either wing or as the advanced player in the midfield 3. Navas can play very wide right and that's it. Given that we don't really commit any numbers or size into the box, a down the line winger is of very limited use to us. If Bony was playing up top, I'd play Navas over Lopes, but if anyone else was up top then I'd play Lopes over Navas every time.
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Matty
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Playing 4-3-3 with out and out wingers isn't something I'd advocate all that often, it'll leave the central player in the front 3 very isolated indeed. You need the ability for your wider 2 to push out to the touchline and trouble the fullback, but equally they need to get infield and support the striker.
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Although the Navas comparisons stem from stature within the squad, Lopes would be a much more suitable alternative to replace Nasri in the squad or, ironically, KDB.
Without Navas we don't have any width on the right side (maybe Sterling can play there, I'm not sure he's that suited to the right?).
Without Navas we don't have any width on the right side (maybe Sterling can play there, I'm not sure he's that suited to the right?).
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Must be me being Dutch and brought up with 4-3-3 the Dutch way than. But 4-3-3 is a system meant to be played with out and out strikers. Lately however, and therefore I can understand your opinion, teams play 4-3-3 with wingers coming inside and actually scoring goals. The latest trend having lefties play on the right and vv. Compare Navas to Robben for exemple. But than what you get is actually 4-5-1 in a attacking style.
Is Barca nowadays playing 4-3-3 or 4-5-1? Do Neymar and Messi play the role of an out and out winger? No, they don't. It's 4-5-1. Same goes for Bayern when Robben and Ribery are free of injury and both playing. If Pellers would like it that way, he should actually play Navas of the left and Sterling on the right. That's why you and I say Lopes is better suited for 4-5-1 coming in from the right. We agree on that.
If we go into the season with Silva, Sterling, De Bruyne I'd want Rony as the 4th choice ahead of Nasri or Navas given his wages would be less than half and he is home grown, I've had a bad feeling for a while with the fact that he is now named as a first team player but we haven't given him a first team squad number like we have Roberts and Denayer.
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If we let this lad go it will send out the worst possible signal. He looked like the real deal when he played for us in the past, and I can fully understand his impatience to get genuine playing time in PL matches. Wouldn't blame him at all for leaving. And what's the point for a lad at that age - which is a key one for development - being loaned out again? From his point of view, I wouldn't want it, or at the least, loan with option to buy. But for me, this is the first fruit of City's incipient youth policy. I'll be bloody sad if he goes.
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Sterling is already inverted playing on the left; he's right footed.
I actually think Barcelona's 4-3-3 is very nicely balanced. Neymar will come in and score goals, obviously, but he's definitely a proper winger as well. He gets a lot of chalk on his boots, stays very wide, stretches the play across the entire pitch and only comes in when Alba pushes up - at which point he goes inside. The number of times he made a run from very wide, in between RB and CB, to receive a ball over the top from messi last season...it was almost formulaic. Every single game they did it and got so many goals it felt like some sort of overused computer game tactic.
Is that a joke? Jesus christ. Why would we sell him?
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This place is lurking with the fuckers mate.He`s probably has never seen him play.
oakiecokie
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Fucking hell has he nicked them shorts of Wio ???
Because he is not ready yet and has only 1 year left on his contract.
The ideal thing to do is to renew his contract and then loan him to PL club, if he refuse to renew then its better to sell.
Silva, Nasri, Sterling, Navas and maybe KDB are all ahead of him.
bluemoon98
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no way he would refuse to renew. Think he is one of these players who would loved to play for us now/future. Sign new contract then loan or play him. No way he will be sold
Pellegrini has said he wants 2 players for each position.
4-2-3-1
1st choice - Sterling - Silva - De Bruyne
back ups - Lopes - Nasri - Navas
433 he can be back up either in the advanced position of the midfield 3, or one of the wide positions - he certainly has the pace needed.
60 games a season - Roughly 40 starts for each first choice, 20 Starts for each back up, plus sub appearances.
We have the room for him in the squad. He's got a place, and he's the best thing to come out of our academy in years, and just had a loan spell where Lille fans were comparing him to Hazard in terms of quality at that age.
Selling him would be the dumbest thing we've done in a long long time.
We will play him enough so that he is convinced to sign a new deal. After that, maybe he can go on a PL loan if he feels like he needs to play every single game possible. Then you'd expect him to have a place in the team when he came back.
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This is part of the reason England needs B teams. For players developed by Barcelona, they're often playing with Barca B until they're into their 20s. Lopes is 19 and we have people talking about how they understand why he would want to leave or why he wouldn't want to be loaned out for another year, etc. If there were B teams, he'd be able to play professional games without having to deal with the loan system. He'd be able to play a game or two with City's senior team as needed but regularly play against other men the rest of the season when he wasn't going to get first team minutes.
The timeline for development is so off in England compared to most other countries because once a kid is 20, he's way too old to be playing against essentially nothing but teenagers but he's also rarely ready to be playing for a major team.
The timeline for development is so off in England compared to most other countries because once a kid is 20, he's way too old to be playing against essentially nothing but teenagers but he's also rarely ready to be playing for a major team.
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We won't be able to keep them all. If we get a decent offer we should take it. Especially if Kdb is on his way and we also have Garcia coming through. If I had to lose 1 of the 3 realy good youth players then lopes would be the one we are going to need denayer and nacho.
I know Rony Lopes even before he joined City.
Lopes is 1 year younger than Sterling, but Sterling played more than 90 games with the first team and developed him self as one of the best players in the League.
If you are good enough, you are old enough and should look for a team where you can play regularly to prove yourself and improve your game.
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