Champions League Draw & TV Pairings

Matty said:
Well, seems it's not just UEFA that screw City in draws, it's me too!

Group A
Paris Saint-Germain
Bayer Leverkusen
Galatasaray
AA Gent

Group B
Chelsea
FC Porto
Olympiakos Piraeus
Maccabi Tel-Aviv

Group C
FC Barcelona
Manchester City
Shakhtar Donetsk
VfL Wolfsburg

Group D
Zenit St. Petersburg
Atlético Madrid
AS Roma
FK Astana

Group E
Juventus
Manchester United
Sevilla
Malmö FF

Group F
Benfica
Valencia
Dinamo Kiev
BATE Borisov

Group G
Bayern München
Real Madrid
CSKA Moscow
Dinamo Zagreb

Group H
PSV Eindhoven
Arsenal
Olympique Lyon
Borussia Möncheng
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That worryingly looks about right!
 
dickie davies said:
We just need to avoid Barca and Bayern Munich from pot 1
Every possible team other than those two I think would make us favourites for the group
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And it would be incredible boring. I want new Teams not the same. Even Bayern fans said they dont want City(and Arsenal)anymore because its too boring.

PSG would be nice because of Paris
 
I predict we'll get PSV, CSKA and BATE. Done that mock draw and got this. Would be very happy if this happened


Group A
Chelsea
Bayer Leverkusen
Sevilla
Dinamo Zagreb
Group B
FC Barcelona
FC Porto
Olympique Lyon
Malmö FF
Group C
Zenit St. Petersburg
Manchester United
Galatasaray
Borussia Mönchengladbach
Group D
Juventus
Valencia
Dinamo Kiev
BATE Borisov
Group E
Benfica
Arsenal
Shakhtar Donetsk
VfL Wolfsburg
Group F
PSV Eindhoven
Manchester City
Olympiakos Piraeus
AA Gent
Group G
Paris Saint-Germain
Atlético Madrid
AS Roma
Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Group H
Bayern München
Real Madrid
CSKA Moscow
FK Astana
 
Matty said:
Do we know which English side we've been paired with for TV purposes?
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That's the key to the entire thing. Unless we know the pairings we cannot really make much of a guess. The predictor thing seems to have City paired with Utd and Chelsea with Arsenal whereas logic would suggest Arsenal are paired with United. If uefa did a dummy draw then we could possibly work out the pairings from that but I haven't seen the entire results of that draw other than the group that apparently City got drawn in.
 
Como Cat said:
That's the key to the entire thing. Unless we know the pairings we cannot really make much of a guess. The predictor thing seems to have City paired with Utd and Chelsea with Arsenal whereas logic would suggest Arsenal are paired with United. If uefa did a dummy draw then we could possibly work out the pairings from that but I haven't seen the entire results of that draw other than the group that apparently City got drawn in.
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It will most likely be Chelsea and City paired together and Arsenal and the Rags. Works for TV and policing purposes so I'd imagine it will be in that order. In terms of the Spanish teams, I'd imagine Barca and Atletico paired together, with Real the otherside of the draw to those two (again for TV/policing reasons). The question is, will Chelsea get put in the same grouping as Barca or in the opposite side?

I'd imagine they'll get put with Barca, and Bayern will be the otherside. Hopefully the rags therefore get Bayern. Chelsea hopefully get Atletico and we avoid Barca! Of the four English teams it's about time Arsenal and ourselves got favourable draws and Chelsea and the Rags were screwed over.

We need to see who else will be in the groupings with Barca.. if it's Chelsea (and we're with them TV wise), we need to hope Benfica aren't as I'd imagine they will put Porto on the otherside which would leave Barca having the option of City or Leverkusen...

I can't wait to find out... something tells me we'll get a decent group we can win... with the only bad point being a distant trip somewhere.
 
BenLlewellyn said:
As long as we don't get any of Barca, Bayern or CSKA then I'm ok. We could get PSG, Sevilla and Wolfsburg for all I care, I just want to play someone new.
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It would be good to get sides we haven't faced before, I think I'd rather a tough team than a trip to Israel/Ukraine/Russia or Kazakhstan though. The travel involved and cold weather will impact on league form more than a tough game somewhere closer to home. Looking at flights, Tel Aviv is about £200 from Luton and Astana is £350 from Heathrow... and a ridiculously long flight. Cyprus or Greece in September wouldn't be too bad though!
 
supercity88 said:
It would be good to get sides we haven't faced before, I think I'd rather a tough team than a trip to Israel/Ukraine/Russia or Kazakhstan though. The travel involved and cold weather will impact on league form more than a tough game somewhere closer to home. Looking at flights, Tel Aviv is about £200 from Luton and Astana is £350 from Heathrow... and a ridiculously long flight. Cyprus or Greece in September wouldn't be too bad though!
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They won't be that price 10 minutes after the draw is made if we get them
 
We will get the hardest tie from each group of teams that it is possible to have the rags will get the easiest. Simples.
 
Matty said:
Do we know which English side we've been paired with for TV purposes?
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No idea. The mediah AND UEFA never advertise the TV pairings even though they are critical to the draws outcome:

TV pairing principle:
  • Once one team in a TV pairing is drawn to a red group (A to D) or blue group (E to H) then the second team in the TV pairing can only be drawn to a group on the other side of the draw. Examples [1] if Barcelona are drawn to Group C (a red group) then their pair (normally Real Madrid) can only be placed in a blue group (E-H). [2] If Barcelona are drawn to Group F (a blue group) then their pair (normally Real Madrid) can only be placed in a red group (A-D).
Best Guess at TV pairings:

  • England [1]#: Arsenal [Pot 2] & Manchester United [Pot 2].
  • England [2]#: Chelsea [Pot 1] & Manchester City [Pot 2].
  • France (FRA): Paris Saint-Germain [Pot 1] & Olympique Lyonnais [Pot 3].
  • Germany [1]%: Bayern Munich [Pot 1] & VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach [Pot 4].
  • Germany [2]%] Bayer 04 Leverkusen [Pot 2] & VfL Wolfsburg [Pot 4].
  • Italy (ITA): Juventus [Pot 1] & Roma (Pot 3].
  • Portugal (POR): SL Benfica [Pot 1] & FC Porto [Pot 2].
  • Russia (RUS): FC Zenit [Pot 1] & PFC CSKA Moskva [Pot 3].
  • Spain (ESP) [1]*: FC Barcelona [Pot 1] & Real Madrid [Pot 2].
  • Spain (ESP) [2]%: Atlético de Madrid [pot 2] & Valencia CF [Pot 2]
  • Ukraine (UKR): FC Dynamo Kyiv [Pot 2] & FC Shakhtar Donetsk [3].
Notes:
[1] * = This TV pairing is in a country with more than 2 teams in the draw. It is a pair that id NORMALLY set up by the countries broadcaster(s). That said there is no absolute guarantee that this pairing will be in place for this draw!
[2] # = This English TV pairing is predicted as it will guarantee an Arsenal or Man Utd game on any Champions League night. THEY MAY STILL APPLY SKY'S LOGIC OF Arsenal/City & Chelsea/Utd but as there is now only one broadcaster they will want a big game every night.
[3] % = These TV pairings mean the teams with the highest average attendances play on separate evenings in the champions League.
 
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Group A
Paris Saint-Germain
Valencia
Galatasaray
VfL Wolfsburg

Group B
Chelsea
Real Madrid
AS Roma
AA Gent

Group C
PSV Eindhoven
Manchester City
Shakhtar Donetsk
FK Astana

Group D
Benfica
Bayer Leverkusen
CSKA Moscow
Dinamo Zagreb

Group E
Bayern München
Arsenal
Sevilla
Maccabi Tel-Aviv

Group F
Juventus
Atlético Madrid
Dinamo Kiev
BATE Borisov

Group G
FC Barcelona
Manchester United
Olympiakos Piraeus
Borussia Mönchengladbach

Group H
Zenit St. Petersburg
FC Porto
Olympique Lyon
Malmö FF

My predicted draw using http://inker.github.io/cl-draw/

Us paired with Chelsea for TV... I'd take that group any day of the week
 
Group A
PSV Eindhoven
Real Madrid
Galatasaray
Malmö FF
Group B
Paris Saint-Germain
Manchester United
AS Roma
Borussia Mönchengladbach
Group C
Bayern München
Atlético Madrid
CSKA Moscow
FK Astana
Group D
Benfica
Arsenal
Shakhtar Donetsk
Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Group E
Chelsea
FC Porto
Sevilla
AA Gent
Group F
FC Barcelona
Bayer Leverkusen
Dinamo Kiev
Dinamo Zagreb
Group G
Juventus
Manchester City
Olympiakos Piraeus
VfL Wolfsburg
Group H
Zenit St. Petersburg
Valencia
Olympique Lyon
BATE Borisov

My champions league draw using http://inker.github.io/cl-draw/ 100% would love this especially if we get De Bruyne plus puts the rags in a tough group
 
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