Rony Lopes

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stablemcfc said:
Why not? Could come to City at the best youth training facilities, grow as a player, and then just leave for Arsenal/Liverpool once you near the end of your contract. Hoping this isn't what we become, but if we don't start giving chances then I fear it could be what occurs.
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We're never gonna sell to Arsenal or Liverpool. If Lopes had gone to Liverpool instead of us he'd be getting games, not being sold to Monaco. Rony will be a £30m+ player in a few years. We've made a huge mistake. The longer we go without promoting youth, the longer we go spending obscene amounts on 21 and 24 year olds.

As others have said, if we signed Sterling instead of Liverpool when he was 15, he wouldn't be playing for us right now. Which is really quite sad.
 
Unfortunately, Lopes was simply not quite good enough. Good luck to him, Monaco is a great move for him. We got decent money for him too.

The best youth players will continue coming to City because they know they will get the best footballing education (and the best academic education) here, along with training facilities not matched anywhere else. Most of them realise that they will never get into our team because we are able to buy the best players in the world. What they do know is that with the training they get here, they are likely to have a fantastic football career at teams like Monaco or Marseille or any number of other British and European clubs.
 
callumcity said:
We're never gonna sell to Arsenal or Liverpool. If Lopes had gone to Liverpool instead of us he'd be getting games, not being sold to Monaco. Rony will be a £30m+ player in a few years. We've made a huge mistake. The longer we go without promoting youth, the longer we go spending obscene amounts on 21 and 24 year olds.

As others have said, if we signed Sterling instead of Liverpool when he was 15, he wouldn't be playing for us right now. Which is really quite sad.
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If they ran down their contract we wouldn't have a choice where they want. I agree with you that we need to promote youth and with your points about Sterling wouldn't play for us now if he'd come to us at 15 - I just disagree that we won't be able to attract youth, I still see us as at worst an attractive stepping stone in youthful careers as we have such good training facilities without them expecting to play for City in the future.
 
Maybe the club thought that there were better prospects coming through and we needed to clear the way for them.

If he wasn't going to sign a new contract, then we had to sell anyway.
 
sambacity4eva said:
Reports being banded about that Pellers thought it was a loan deal, not permanent! Bizarre if that's true! (Apologies if already posted).
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I assume it was just a mistake. He only had a year left on his contract and wasn't going to sign another one so a loan would have made no sense.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
I assume it was just a mistake. He only had a year left on his contract and wasn't going to sign another one so a loan would have made no sense.
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"I think Marcos needs to plays more in another club. He is a very good player. I am sure in the future he will be part of our club but for this year he must continue trying to play as much football as he can. Here he has a lot of competition with David (Silva) and Samir (Nasri) so it is better for him to go on loan.'

When asked to clarify that the move was just a loan, Pellegrini added: 'Yes, just for this season.'
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Does seem a bit weird then. Makes little difference though if Lopes wasn't going to sign a new contract. Selling him was the only real option.
 
To those complaining about the lack of youth on the team, I think City will be fine. Nacho are Roberts are still on the squad and should improve. They clearly have high hopes for Denayer but for him to get better he will need constant reps, and as talented as he is, he's not better than Vinnie, Mangala or Otamendi. Its good for him to go out on loan, get better and then take over for MDM next season. The next crop of players (Ambrose, Barker, Garcia, etc..) look to be better and more talented so that's always something to look forward to.
 
MCFCFanTX said:
To those complaining about the lack of youth on the team, I think City will be fine. Nacho are Roberts are still on the squad and should improve. They clearly have high hopes for Denayer but for him to get better he will need constant reps, and as talented as he is, he's not better than Vinnie, Mangala or Otamendi. Its good for him to go out on loan, get better and then take over for MDM next season. The next crop of players (Ambrose, Barker, Garcia, etc..) look to be better and more talented so that's always something to look forward to.
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There's a difference between having good players and using them. Do you see Pellegrini playing any of those you mentioned a reasonable amount this season? He's under pressure as it is, I foresee him sticking to his big guns as much as possible. We need a long-term manager who's given the backing and freedom to be a bit more experimental perhaps at the detriment of results knowing he won't be sacked for it.
 
MCFCFanTX said:
To those complaining about the lack of youth on the team, I think City will be fine. Nacho are Roberts are still on the squad and should improve. They clearly have high hopes for Denayer but for him to get better he will need constant reps, and as talented as he is, he's not better than Vinnie, Mangala or Otamendi. Its good for him to go out on loan, get better and then take over for MDM next season. The next crop of players (Ambrose, Barker, Garcia, etc..) look to be better and more talented so that's always something to look forward to.
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what the point of Roberts for example being in the "squad" if he never plays. He has played 0 minutes of competitive football and its 3 weeks in to the season. Tomorrow he will get on the bench because of injuries, otherwise no chance. Surely loan or playing in EDS would be better for him. Given his age, he needs to be playing week in week out somewhere.
 
Sad day this for me.
Thought he would become a regular 1st team player for us in the future.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
what the point of Roberts for example being in the "squad" if he never plays. He has played 0 minutes of competitive football and its 3 weeks in to the season. Tomorrow he will get on the bench because of injuries, otherwise no chance. Surely loan or playing in EDS would be better for him. Given his age, he needs to be playing week in week out somewhere.
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He might not even get on the bench. Pellegrini will probably just go with Caballero, Clichy, Otamendi, Demichelis, Delph, Nasri, Iheanacho (even though it's an unbalanced bench)
 
MeatHunterrr said:
what the point of Roberts for example being in the "squad" if he never plays. He has played 0 minutes of competitive football and its 3 weeks in to the season. Tomorrow he will get on the bench because of injuries, otherwise no chance. Surely loan or playing in EDS would be better for him. Given his age, he needs to be playing week in week out somewhere.
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stablemcfc said:
There's a difference between having good players and using them. Do you see Pellegrini playing any of those you mentioned a reasonable amount this season? He's under pressure as it is, I foresee him sticking to his big guns as much as possible. We need a long-term manager who's given the backing and freedom to be a bit more experimental perhaps at the detriment of results knowing he won't be sacked for it.
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Not really worried about the minute distribution after 3 games. Depth will be important + come in handy when the team starts playing multiple times a week. It's a long season and there 50+ total games left to be played.

Just guessing but I think the reason why Pelle has used the players the way he has so far is so the team can get off to a good start after last season's disappointing title defense. Play the big guys, get off to a good start, get some momentum/confidence and then slowly interjecting some of the younger players. It's not an insane strategy, personally.

Pelle is smart enough to know though that if he doesn't use his entire team, he's gonna burn out his main horses. I expect some of the other guys to get more time as the season progresses.
 
Monaco's plans are to loan him out straight away. He isn't going to be part of their squad this season.
 
I think we offered him a new contract but he wouldn't sign it unless guarantees were given.

With him only having a year left on his deal it was either keep him and let him go for nothing next season or sell now for what, 9m?

We should have sorted his contract situation out before the loan to Lille.
 
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