Refugee crisis

[BlueTangerine]

shouldn't be shown.

I am not sure. It shouldn't have to be shown, but it is a reality nonetheless. If it really takes images like this to kick people up the arse then I think it should be shown.

 

[BlueHammer85]

not sure that's appropriate for this thread

I think it's totally appropriate. The attitude from most of the country seems to be 'f*ck em, we gotta enough immigrants ' ... That picture is just one of thousands of tragic deaths so far, people (not f*cking migrants) people, men, women and baby's drowning out in the Sea, suffocating in backs of Lorrys. The UN really need to do a lot lot more, the government aswell but mostly the attitudes of our greedy rich population who can easily turn a blind eye to stories like this.

 

[Moveonlife]

not sure that's appropriate for this thread

Why not mate? I was just expressing my anger at people who put their so called country they've "died" for before dying men, woman and children. Just think about being in their shoes.

And this is not to any of you here, it's just an opinion

 

[marco]

That photo is harrowing.

The whole refugee crisis is a tragic situation, and our government's response so far has been disgraceful.

its very sad indeed but i think Camerons hands are tied, taking more and more refuges when our NHS and other critical services are on there knees cant be the answer, this Island cant home them, hundreds of thousands of working familys are already using food banks in this country, i think the only way to help them is at the point of the problem 'the country of origin' Syria or Iraq i think its time United Nations went in and the troops went in to dispose of ISIS, there would be outcries from every corner of the UK if that happened from the anti war brigade but i think its the only way

 

[mancityvstoke]

Why not mate? I was just expressing my anger at people who put their so called country they've "died" for before dying men, woman and children. Just think about being in their shoes.

And this is not to any of you here, it's just an opinion

it's a thread about one image.... a sad image

No one is mentioning the whys and wherefores or about immigrants

This is beyond that

 

[warspite]

Yeah changed that now. Sorry for the typo. My Mrs has just seen it and she started to well up she then went upstairs and gave our little lad a kiss. When 16 people think its safer to cross the sea in a dingy made for 4 rather than stay on land then something is very wrong

The land they left..Turkey ..was safer than putting the poor little kid in that dingy, his family could have applied for political asylum there, they would have been perfectly safe and the kid and his elder Brother would still be alive

 

[BlueTangerine]

it's a thread about one image.... a sad image

No one is mentioning the whys and wherefores or about immigrants

This is beyond that

To be fair, the Op did go into 'this is a shit unfair world' stuff.. You can't dictate that all posts be about the 1 image.

 

[Balti]

there are kids starving to death in the UK trying to live off food banks ffs

it's incredibly sad but it's happening on our doorstep too and we should be more shocked by that

 

[urmston]

What is shocking about some people who get into rickety old boats to cross a large sea getting drowned?

It is what anyone would expect to happen, hardly a shock.

I'm satisfied with Cameron's hard line approach.

 

[mancityvstoke]

To be fair, the Op did go into 'this is a shit unfair world' stuff.. You can't dictate that all posts be about the 1 image.

Not dictating anything...I just think a little boy fleeing war and drowning is sad.....not about immigrants Just my opinion

carry on

 

[Ric]

What is shocking about some people who get into rickety old boats to cross a large sea getting drowned?

It is what anyone would expect to happen, hardly a shock.

I'm satisfied with Cameron's hard line approach.

Each to their own. Personally, I'm appalled by Cameron's hard line approach.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Each to their own. Personally, I'm appalled by Cameron's hard line approach.

He's appeasing the Britain First/UKIP type that took a lot of votes away from the Tories as they weren't 'tough enough of migration'

 

[BlueTangerine]

What is shocking about some people who get into rickety old boats to cross a large sea getting drowned?

It is what anyone would expect to happen, hardly a shock.

I'm satisfied with Cameron's hard line approach.

You're misplacing the 'shock' - The image is shocking, the acts of desperation are shocking. Saying that "well what would you expect to happen?" is missing the point a bit.

 

[Balti]

Each to their own. Personally, I'm appalled by Cameron's hard line approach.

as you say each to their own

many of us do not think it's hard line at all

and of course it is not just Cameron lol.....but the government as a whole....the gov't that the majority of the UK voted for

 

[bellbuzz]

My thoughts are that these are exceptional circumstances in exceptional times and we need to do something on both fronts. The first thing we really have to do is take care of these poor people however we can easing their burden and processing them into our country and other countries in the world.then we really do need to address the problem or at least genuinely try to so that these people can go home safely to a country that has a fighting chance for peace.
The thoughts of immigration should be put to one side for this particular instance and the world as a whole should make it happen for these poor people.

 

[urmston]

Why can't countries like Poland, Romania and Bulgaria can't take loads of refugees?

After all, there must be a lot of space for them there after plenty of their inhabitants emigrated to other parts of the EU.

And as we are told immigrants are an economic benefit it'd make sense for poorer countries like those to take as many as they can get, instead of richer countries like the UK and Germany using them to get even richer.

 

[marco]

Why can't countries like Poland, Romania and Bulgaria can't take loads of refugees?

After all, there must be a lot of space for them there after plenty of their inhabitants emigrated to other parts of the EU.

And as we are told immigrants are an economic benefit it'd make sense for poorer countries like those to take as many as they can get, instead of richer countries like the UK and Germany using them to get even richer.

its down to one thing and that's money, it costs money to home them and feed them then they need schools hospitals etc etc and for the countries you mention relative to Germany and France they are the poorer countries

 

[Balti]

My thoughts are that these are exceptional circumstances in exceptional times and we need to do something on both fronts. The first thing we really have to do is take care of these poor people however we can easing their burden and processing them into our country and other countries in the world.then we really do need to address the problem or at least genuinely try to so that these people can go home safely to a country that has a fighting chance for peace.
The thoughts of immigration should be put to one side for this particular instance and the world as a whole should make it happen for these poor people.

trouble is which ones are the 'nice deserving just trying to escape ISIS' refugees.....and which ones are the infiltrating murderous muslim jihadist scum?

 

[warspite]

Each to their own. Personally, I'm appalled by Cameron's hard line approach.

Personally i'v omly heard Media/politician types who disagree with him, everyone who's mentioned it to me Today agree with him

 

[bellbuzz]

trouble is which ones are the nice deserving just trying to escape ISIS' refugees.....and which ones are the infiltrating murderous muslim jihadist scum?

I wont argue with you that there isn't a problem because there is and we need a better mechanism to deal with that problem and weed out the bad from the innocent.But while we sit it out it's just getting worse for the majority of good people who are caught in the middle.